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2024 Novice Chasers

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  • How in gods name is master chewy and matata around 16s best price and only around 20 on the exchange? Surely gunna be bigger on the exchange nearer the off? Master chewy a gap in my arkle book and ideally want double what he's at atm, Jacob has ditched matata to jump on Hunters and then Sam has picked matata over chewy, baffling how he's the price he is imo

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    • First time hoods on both corbetts cross and embassy gardens

      Suggests neither set of connections are confident they will settle well enough to stay

      Little more hope for ziggy and the outsiders

      I can't see corbetts cross getting home after headbutting 4 or 5 fences on his way round

      I can see embassy gardens staying, but will Patrick have him too far back or will he have learnt after getting lucky on GDM last year

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      • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
        First time hoods on both corbetts cross and embassy gardens

        Suggests neither set of connections are confident they will settle well enough to stay

        Little more hope for ziggy and the outsiders

        I can't see corbetts cross getting home after headbutting 4 or 5 fences on his way round

        I can see embassy gardens staying, but will Patrick have him too far back or will he have learnt after getting lucky on GDM last year
        EG is by Shantou and has won on heavy so I'd have him to outstay CC all day. His jumping isn't good enough IMO and headgear for both is a bit of a question mark.

        The ground has probably gone against Salvador Ziggy.

        I would love to see KK win this.

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        • Corbett's wins this.

          The time where the slow old boats wins this race has gone.

          Last few winners all had form over shorter than 3m over hurdles/chases.

          GDM - won the 2m6 race at the DRF and 2nd in a Ballymore. Also placed in a 2m4 novice chase grade 1.

          Stattler - won maidens over the mid trip. Quicker horse than RWF.

          Galvin - 6th in a Ballymore. Won a grade 3 novice chase over 2m4. 2nd in the old novice festival handicap chase over 2m4.

          CC has jumped around Leopardstown so Cheltenham won't be a problem.

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          • The ground is going to be pretty testing I reckon and the top amatuers will be looking to pace it correctly.
            But the fly in the ointment might be Mr Vango and they'd do well not to let him have too much rope. Which might mean they go a little too hard on the ground and it'll be last man standing.

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            • Apple Away into 6/1 is so bad. Wouldn't back at double that.

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              • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                The ground is going to be pretty testing I reckon and the top amatuers will be looking to pace it correctly.
                But the fly in the ointment might be Mr Vango and they'd do well not to let him have too much rope. Which might mean they go a little too hard on the ground and it'll be last man standing.
                Vango may well do a Mahler Mission (without the fall) . As you say, hard from the front, ignored by the others, and stay there. Should have done him EW though when there were 8+. Schoolboy error.
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                • The NHC is gonna be a pretty grim spectacle on this ground isn't it

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                  • Originally posted by robith View Post
                    The NHC is gonna be a pretty grim spectacle on this ground isn't it
                    Hope it doesn't end up as bad as that year 5 or 6 years ago when only 3 or 4 finished

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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                      Vango may well do a Mahler Mission (without the fall) . As you say, hard from the front, ignored by the others, and stay there. Should have done him EW though when there were 8+. Schoolboy error.
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                      Coral extra place this race

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                      • Vega declared for turners

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                        • Originally posted by Nwfb89 View Post

                          Hope it doesn't end up as bad as that year 5 or 6 years ago when only 3 or 4 finished
                          Only 4 of the 10 finished last year

                          Similar is very likely

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                          • Letsbeclearabout it dec'd for the Turners rather than the Plate as it stands.

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                            • Depending on how the race goes it can be seen as a good thing from a horse welfare perspective if there are plenty of PU.

                              Is it better to see horses finish at a walk 60 lengths down or pulled up 2 out

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                              • Originally posted by Hurricane fly View Post
                                Depending on how the race goes it can be seen as a good thing from a horse welfare perspective if there are plenty of PU.

                                Is it better to see horses finish at a walk 60 lengths down or pulled up 2 out
                                That was one of the main reasons the race got changed

                                The jockeys on jerrysback and clondaw cian not pulling their mounts up despite them being out on their feet 2 out

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