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  • Gaelic has got better overall form and also better Cheltenham form than anything else in the arkle.
    Quilixios only horse near him, and he's no where near as quick.

    I think like others said he should really go off 2-1 or shorter.
    Doubt he'll get competition for the lead either as I don't think they're fast enough. And he might take a lead of horses like JPR or Found a fifty anyway.

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    • Think there's a fair bit of confidence in Iroko camp....

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      • Zero chance Gaelic warrior wins the Arkle IMO can't be arsed to explain but it goes along the lines of shit right jumper, needs more time.

        I think everyone's at the end of their tether with him, including the owners

        Should have stuck to the original plan of the 3m chase or hurdlers.

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        • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
          Gaelic has got better overall form and also better Cheltenham form than anything else in the arkle.
          Quilixios only horse near him, and he's no where near as quick.

          I think like others said he should really go off 2-1 or shorter.
          Doubt he'll get competition for the lead either as I don't think they're fast enough. And he might take a lead of horses like JPR or Found a fifty anyway.
          I think he'll hate going as slow as Found a Fifty wants to go from the front. If he behaves himself in the parade ring and to the start, Paul will just get him into a rhythm from the front. If he pings the first 3 he's going to be difficult to beat in this. I'd slightly worry about the final bend and the fence straight off it though. That can catch out plenty of horses and if GW is leaning to his right round that bend he's not going to have much time to correct himself before that fence comes up.

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          • Is My Mate Mozzie going Arkle or Grand Annual?

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            • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post

              I think he'll hate going as slow as Found a Fifty wants to go from the front. If he behaves himself in the parade ring and to the start, Paul will just get him into a rhythm from the front. If he pings the first 3 he's going to be difficult to beat in this. I'd slightly worry about the final bend and the fence straight off it though. That can catch out plenty of horses and if GW is leaning to his right round that bend he's not going to have much time to correct himself before that fence comes up.
              Yep I'd be 90% sure they try and make all, and slow it down when they can mid race, much like Patrick's ride at Limerick.

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              • Originally posted by Hiddy Harmeen View Post
                Is My Mate Mozzie going Arkle or Grand Annual?
                Trainer has said arkle recently.

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                • Originally posted by Hiddy Harmeen View Post
                  Is My Mate Mozzie going Arkle or Grand Annual?
                  Going the Arkle.

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                  • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                    Trainer has said arkle recently.
                    He's overpriced imo, there's no superstar here in an average renewal

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                    • Originally posted by Hiddy Harmeen View Post

                      He's overpriced imo, there's no superstar here in an average renewal
                      Funny market though Hiddy, something has to give and several of the top few will be bigger prices on the day. IMO.
                      Just difficult to say who's going to be up and who's going to be down.

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                      • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                        Funny market though Hiddy, something has to give and several of the top few will be bigger prices on the day. IMO.
                        Just difficult to say who's going to be up and who's going to be down.
                        Yes it’s best to wait. Bigger prices on the day, better EW terms. The market has to give - not sure what the overround is but it’s going to be too big now…

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                        • Originally posted by Mighty View Post

                          Yes it’s best to wait. Bigger prices on the day, better EW terms. The market has to give - not sure what the overround is but it’s going to be too big now…
                          Yeah, this race and Bumper in particular look very dodgy.

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                          • Originally posted by Hiddy Harmeen View Post
                            Is My Mate Mozzie going Arkle or Grand Annual?
                            Very much Arkle now following Marine coming out. Not sure though if Gaelic going for it might complicate things? Probably benefit him as it'll ensure a strong pace and he's a come from behind animal.

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                            • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post
                              Rich Ricci says they're leaning towards the Arkle for GW. Must have said it at the shite preview tonight
                              Maybe he will go Arkle, but I’m taking this with a large pinch of salt
                              I remember him telling us Vautour going Gold Cup!!

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                              • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                                Gaelic has got better overall form and also better Cheltenham form than anything else in the arkle.
                                Quilixios only horse near him, and he's no where near as quick.

                                I think like others said he should really go off 2-1 or shorter.
                                Doubt he'll get competition for the lead either as I don't think they're fast enough. And he might take a lead of horses like JPR or Found a fifty anyway.
                                He has no form at 2m over fences though.
                                His best chase form is over 2 and a half going the other way round. And there’s a big ? after his last run.
                                And that’s why imo he should not be that short.
                                But if a lot of people agree with you, then he’s likely to be shorter.
                                He will be an interesting runner though.
                                Definitely adds to the race, which is good.

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