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  • Originally posted by Liammet View Post
    I am sure I heard Ruby say in the PP podcast that Embassy Gardens ( already qualified ) was going there and that leaves one at Navan

    They could run the 2 at Naas of course
    I can't find any Mullins runners to have run in the Ten Up and then in the NHC recently. So it's Naas next weekend or RSA bound in my view.

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    • Willie likes lots of options so I'd be very surprised if nick rockett doesn't run in a race to get qualified

      Looks like cocooner will get qualified if running on Saturday

      Sandor clegane is in that race to, I'd say they are thinking Irish national for him unless he bolts up then he'd go BANC.

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      • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
        ….i thought Iroko was OFTS, seeing a couple of entries.
        Josh Guerriero was on a podcast a week or so back and said Iroko was back with them. I don't remember him saying anything specifically about Cheltenham but that they hoped he could run in a couple of races later in the season. Would be a nice surprise if he made it there!

        edit: just checked back actually and he did say that it was unlikely he would run at Cheltenham if he didn't get a run in before.

        Well worth a listen if you have time: https://youtu.be/t68R89-DXPM?si=H1KlaOpvPL5qldHD
        Last edited by isitmarchyet; 16 January 2024, 04:31 PM.

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        • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
          Willie likes lots of options so I'd be very surprised if nick rockett doesn't run in a race to get qualified

          Looks like cocooner will get qualified if running on Saturday

          Sandor clegane is in that race to, I'd say they are thinking Irish national for him unless he bolts up then he'd go BANC.
          If Cocooner qualifies this weekend and with both Embassy Gardens and Meetingofthewaters being namechecked for the race those three will probably be it for Willie.

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          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

            If Cocooner qualifies this weekend and with both Embassy Gardens and Meetingofthewaters being namechecked for the race those three will probably be it for Willie.
            If Willie has Minella Cocooner and Embassy Gardens both qualified then Meetingofthewaters will go for the Ultima, IMO.

            I'm sure the entry the other day was just a handicap mark finding mission, despite the declaration.

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            • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

              If Willie has Minella Cocooner and Embassy Gardens both qualified then Meetingofthewaters will go for the Ultima, IMO.

              I'm sure the entry the other day was just a handicap mark finding mission, despite the declaration.
              Think some else said it was injury related?

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              • Grey Dawning proving popular for the Turners. Into 14/1 with Unibet having been 40/1 2 days ago.

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                • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                  Will he stay 3m6f?

                  He'd be doubtful to imo, has plenty of speed

                  And doesn't jump the best

                  If he was fav and iv had a good start to day 1 I'd be going in heavy against him I reckon
                  They don’t seem think he’ll have any stamina issues anyway and there aiming at a GN next season
                  Jumping yeah but it’s the NHC not a RSA or Turners against proper top level graded horses

                  Just a poor quality field he’ll be by far the best horse in there if he shows ups , but yeah can pick holes in all them really

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                  • Originally posted by Run4Home View Post

                    They don’t seem think he’ll have any stamina issues anyway and there aiming at a GN next season
                    Jumping yeah but it’s the NHC not a RSA or Turners against proper top level graded horses

                    Just a poor quality field he’ll be by far the best horse in there if he shows ups , but yeah can pick holes in all them really
                    next season ?
                    I'd expect them to enter this year, much like Patrick's horse.

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                    • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                      next season ?
                      I'd expect them to enter this year, much like Patrick's horse.
                      As far as I know there not going this year now , next year the plan.
                      Wouldn’t be surprised if not even entered

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                      • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                        If Willie has Minella Cocooner and Embassy Gardens both qualified then Meetingofthewaters will go for the Ultima, IMO.

                        I'm sure the entry the other day was just a handicap mark finding mission, despite the declaration.
                        They were hoping the mark would not get taxed and he'd be left on his IRE 145, for Patrick's Kim Muir ride, but 147 scuppered that idea.
                        I think he may end up in the Ultima, but I'm not convinced they think that much of the others, especially Minella Cocooner. He's barely got a mention in the last few weeks from Ruby Willie or Patrick. Its been the other three for the NH chase every time it's been brought up.
                        I'd be surprised if Embassy gardens shows up too well if running at Dublin.
                        Nick Rockett needs to qualify but looks likely to head to the race, just not certain Patrick would be that enthused and may prefer his own horse out of the three.
                        He may, of course also want to ride in the Ultima as well. Depend on how many he is allowed/permitted to ride.

                        Obviously all depends on the next runs and how good they look.
                        O'Connell has an interesting one entered against Minella at the weekend. Forget his first run as he wasn't trying, much like Mahler Mission last year.
                        Had he been more than 33-1 NRNB I'd have had a dabble, just in case he looks a different horse.

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                        • Originally posted by Run4Home View Post

                          As far as I know there not going this year now , next year the plan.
                          Wouldn’t be surprised if not even entered
                          not surprising from Frank, although I'd bet Emett would like to go.

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                          • All valid points Quevega

                            Nick Rockett and Embassy Gardens is still a fair hand though. Personally think if they've got designs on the National then they'll just go the Ultima route.

                            Certainly makes it all a little more interesting.

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                            • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                              They were hoping the mark would not get taxed and he'd be left on his IRE 145, for Patrick's Kim Muir ride, but 147 scuppered that idea.
                              I think he may end up in the Ultima, but I'm not convinced they think that much of the others, especially Minella Cocooner. He's barely got a mention in the last few weeks from Ruby Willie or Patrick. Its been the other three for the NH chase every time it's been brought up.
                              I'd be surprised if Embassy gardens shows up too well if running at Dublin.
                              Nick Rockett needs to qualify but looks likely to head to the race, just not certain Patrick would be that enthused and may prefer his own horse out of the three.
                              He may, of course also want to ride in the Ultima as well. Depend on how many he is allowed/permitted to ride.

                              Obviously all depends on the next runs and how good they look.
                              O'Connell has an interesting one entered against Minella at the weekend. Forget his first run as he wasn't trying, much like Mahler Mission last year.
                              Had he been more than 33-1 NRNB I'd have had a dabble, just in case he looks a different horse.
                              Not sure if you mean Patricks owns the horse but he doesn't, Paul Byrne owns the horse it was an RP mistake at the time of the PP race i think caused some confusion

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                              • Originally posted by Run4Home View Post

                                Not sure if you mean Patricks owns the horse but he doesn't, Paul Byrne owns the horse it was an RP mistake at the time of the PP race i think caused some confusion
                                Yeah, I had seen that and Byrne's colours. Noticed ATR had it as Byrne only.
                                Assumed Patrick looks after him a bit like Mr Incredible.

                                On that Note, I assume Patrick gets a few to look after anyways, as practice for the sad day his dad stops.

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