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  • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

    Il etait temps will as well

    and he will have a couple more in the flogas too most like indiana dream

    Be interesting to see how he shuffles the pack
    It will indeed!!
    He’s got a few real gooduns for sure.
    Embassy Gardens another that impressed me, can see him going NHC.
    G West should be in BANC.
    FTF could be in any of them !!
    BD in Turners or Arkle.
    GW probably Arkle.
    They all look well capable of winning at Cheltenham.
    Will be looking at a few multiples at some point soon I reckon.

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    • Forgot Nick Rockett
      Hrs another I like
      Backed him in both NHC and BANC, would like to cash out one of them, but which one?
      Anyone hear anything, let me know would be great.

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      • Originally posted by opatcho View Post

        Strange who things may turn out, wasnt that long ago when Gaelic was a banker for the stayers
        I think Gaelic has the most races against his name in my bets, lost the Stayers ones so hoping to keep on top of the others to avoid any more losses, although 365 have greyed out the BANC bets. Backed him for the Arkle at 12's doubled with the Hill as cover. Would be a great battle with Marine or Il Est Francais, but he may avoid the latter. FFS can't help but waffle when talking about Gaelic; him and Willie are a nightmare combination for an AP punter

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        • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post
          Forgot Nick Rockett
          Hrs another I like
          Backed him in both NHC and BANC, would like to cash out one of them, but which one?
          Anyone hear anything, let me know would be great.
          Out again on Monday, Fairyhouse, 3pm. 2m5f beginners chase though you would think he has to win impressively to be BANC potential. I hope he is still.

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          • Originally posted by Irish Rugby View Post

            Out again on Monday, Fairyhouse, 3pm. 2m5f beginners chase though you would think he has to win impressively to be BANC potential. I hope he is still.
            Good to see him again. Definitely needs at least a couple of runs before the Fez as he's a big raw type. Last time was an educational ride imo in which they learned a fair bit and think they'll make a lot more use of him this time and have him right up there as they know he stays well. I like him a lot and reckon he'll win well Monday.

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            • Originally posted by Frankely My Dear View Post

              I think Gaelic has the most races against his name in my bets, lost the Stayers ones so hoping to keep on top of the others to avoid any more losses, although 365 have greyed out the BANC bets. Backed him for the Arkle at 12's doubled with the Hill as cover. Would be a great battle with Marine or Il Est Francais, but he may avoid the latter. FFS can't help but waffle when talking about Gaelic; him and Willie are a nightmare combination for an AP punter
              I was thinking about this just this morning, what a fan/backer of gaelic warrior must be going through.
              Thought they had the stayers in the bag pre season.... then the banc pre chase debut..... then the turners after debut......now the arkle is looking a real possibility.
              And after all this patrick after riding him the other day said he's not sure about cheltenham.
              He's a fantastic steeplechaser in the making, he jumps a fence and sets a gallop not many can do and i hope he comes in for you but it must be a torturous journey.

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              • Very unlike Willie to namecheck the Turners for Fact to File. I'm sort of coming round to people's thoughts that Gaelic could be thrown into the Arkle as Willie doesn't now appear to have a top one to challenge Marine now that Vega has fluffed his lines again. DRF entries will be very interesting.

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                • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                  Very unlike Willie to namecheck the Turners for Fact to File. I'm sort of coming round to people's thoughts that Gaelic could be thrown into the Arkle as Willie doesn't now appear to have a top one to challenge Marine now that Vega has fluffed his lines again. DRF entries will be very interesting.
                  They really won't be, he'll block enter them all as usual.

                  Gaelic was in RP Novice too.

                  He's still got the policeman, blood destiny and Hunters Yarn who could all step up to the plate, but in all honesty, they're likely playing 2nd fiddle to Marine if he arrives fit and well on his A game.

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                  • I was one of those thinking Facile may be better out in trip, however, this was based mostly on Mister Policeman being the real deal which is hard to see now.

                    That said, I'd be real happy if Facile Vega went out in trip and could genuinely see him causing Gaelic Warrior problems.

                    Even with the news of Klassical Dream being out for the season, Willie is still going to be mob handed in all the Grade 1 novice chases you'd expect.

                    Arkle will likely be one of three, Mister Policeman, Blood Destiny and Il Etait Temps who probably needs to come back in trip after losing to Gaelic Warrior at Limerick.

                    Turners I imagine will be Gaelic Warrior, Facile Vega and possibly Fact To File, whilst the BANC will be Grangeclare West, Indiana Dream and maybe Nick Rockett, IMO.

                    I might have to start perming them once WH go NRNB!

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                    • I don't see the point in them going back to 2m with Gaelic Warrior given his record at the course- Bridesmaid.

                      Much more likely to win a Turners vs.....not much currently than going up against Marine National in an Arkle jumping right.

                      Willie will probably throw COD's 3 at it + accept he's playing for place money if MN runs to his best.

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                      • Originally posted by jack1092 View Post
                        I don't see the point in them going back to 2m with Gaelic Warrior given his record at the course- Bridesmaid.

                        Much more likely to win a Turners vs.....not much currently than going up against Marine National in an Arkle jumping right.

                        Willie will probably throw COD's 3 at it + accept he's playing for place money if MN runs to his best.
                        It's where he runs at Dublin that will make the difference.

                        He'd be allowed to lead an Irish arkle for sure, so why not give it a go ?
                        If Marine breezes by and he jumps right as expected then all they've learnt is that he'll have a better shout in the Turners and the jumping right thing is still an issue.
                        But if he wins, they have options.

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                        • I don’t see Willie throwing away a turners to most likely come second in an Arkle.

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                          • Originally posted by Kautostar View Post
                            I don’t see Willie throwing away a turners to most likely come second in an Arkle.
                            It's mostly people hedging in case of the outside chance he goes Arkle. My own opinion was that if somehow Il est Francais was to turn up in a turners, other horses might scatter to elsewhere and given Willie doesn't have a standout 2 miler at this moment in time, coupled with a previous statement about GW going back in trip, it was a chance worth taking.

                            ​​​​Most likely it will be wrong but it is gambling after all

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                            • Originally posted by Kautostar View Post
                              I don’t see Willie throwing away a turners to most likely come second in an Arkle.
                              He's namechecked the Turners for Fact to File who would have a serious chance so hardly throwing the race away. He may feel that Gaelic is capable of challenging Marine and he does love to split them and have serious chances in every race.

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                              • The less Gaelic Warrior has to jump at Cheltenham the less distance he will lose on the field.

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