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2024 Novice Chasers

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  • Originally posted by Odin View Post

    Agree on both parts to be fair - wonder if they are thinking that sending him over 2m4f would lead to him being too free over 3m next time given he was keen throughout at Sandown.
    Good point - keeping him over 3m might be better for the longer term.

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    • Now, I may have misheard, but on upping the ante last week, I’m sure that the kauto star was mentioned as a possibility for Gaelic warrior. Now that would be a demolition job. None of this French rubbish with one of those john Wayne fellas on top

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      • Originally posted by Guinness Village View Post
        Now, I may have misheard, but on upping the ante last week, I’m sure that the kauto star was mentioned as a possibility for Gaelic warrior. Now that would be a demolition job. None of this French rubbish with one of those john Wayne fellas on top
        I think it was just mentioned as a race thst would suit him not that they had info he was going

        Would be a nice tester for next years king george though

        He'd be 1/50 to go to limerick over kempton in my eyes

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        • Timeform Novice Chase Ratings....

          Stay Away Fay....150p
          Le Patron ............149
          Indiana Dream.....143p

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          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
            Timeform Novice Chase Ratings....

            Stay Away Fay....150p
            Le Patron ............149
            Indiana Dream.....143p

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            I’d be interested to hear what Saxon Warrior thoughts are on SAF RPR/retunsg - given the amount of analysis he’s done across 10 year ratings

            feels like he’s got a hit to find still, in previous years you see BANC horses hit mid 155’s over 2 and a half, allowing for improvement to be seen again when they step up to 3

            for me anyway, just feels he’s shy of the rating expected after 2nd run over 3 miles but happily get the view from a ratings judge :-)

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            • Originally posted by opatcho View Post

              I’d be interested to hear what Saxon Warrior thoughts are on SAF RPR/retunsg - given the amount of analysis he’s done across 10 year ratings

              feels like he’s got a hit to find still, in previous years you see BANC horses hit mid 155’s over 2 and a half, allowing for improvement to be seen again when they step up to 3

              for me anyway, just feels he’s shy of the rating expected after 2nd run over 3 miles but happily get the view from a ratings judge :-)
              9 out of last 12 winners OR of between 144 and 153.

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              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                9 out of last 12 winners OR of between 144 and 153.
                Taken from Saxon's thread - RPR's

                Pre-Race Ratings:
                160, 163, 170, 157, 161, 163, 165, 165, 157, 151,
                (High 170, Low 150, Avge 163) - taking last 8yrs only

                I'd assume SAF will have one more run, current RPR is 151... dunno, I'm bored this monday...

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                • Originally posted by opatcho View Post

                  Taken from Saxon's thread - RPR's

                  Pre-Race Ratings:
                  160, 163, 170, 157, 161, 163, 165, 165, 157, 151,
                  (High 170, Low 150, Avge 163) - taking last 8yrs only

                  I'd assume SAF will have one more run, current RPR is 151... dunno, I'm bored this monday...
                  He’s good, probably needs soft ground for the bare 3M in the BANC.

                  Needs a bit more, doesn’t he?

                  He only beat one proper rival on Friday, be good to see him in a deeper race to see what he’s got.

                  The Cotswold Chase on Trials Day has been mentioned, that would be a great way of finding where they are with him, and could lead to a rating boost.
                  "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                  • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

                    Knappers Hill is an intended runner I believe.

                    Il Est Francais as someone has said.

                    I’d have him as fav is the ground isn’t as soft but the quick turnaround is a slight worry. Hopefully gets a decent rest after that!
                    If Knappers Hill turns up I shall look no further

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                    • Yeah, I think he's jus shy, and I'm a little concerned he may get outpaced, similar to Gerri C.
                      Really like the horse, but quicker ground around the sharper course... I would like to see him score a little higher to mitigate some of my concerns

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                      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                        Timeform Novice Chase Ratings....

                        Stay Away Fay....150p
                        Le Patron ............149
                        Indiana Dream.....143p

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                        Interesting as RPR has SAF on 151, Le Patron 152 and Indiana Dream 149. Been some good RPR's run this season though from first time out horses over the shorter trips. BANC looks much more open as is normally the case.

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                        • Looking forward to seeing how Let's Go Champ runs tomorrow. Ran well on debut and sure to be fitter. Tomorrow's race is over the qualifying distance for the NHC which is where I believe he'll end up. Would be unusual for HDB to have a runner in the race but I reckon it'll really suit him.

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                          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                            Timeform Novice Chase Ratings....

                            Stay Away Fay....150p
                            Le Patron ............149
                            Indiana Dream.....143p

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                            Le patron wins a grade 1 full of handicappers and gets 149

                            Stay away fay beats a very good prospect giving him 3lb and gets 150

                            Not sure I'm seeing that

                            The 2 mile novices in britain are useless

                            The 3 mile novices look like Cheltenham grade 1 contenders

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                            • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                              Le patron wins a grade 1 full of handicappers and gets 149

                              Stay away fay beats a very good prospect giving him 3lb and gets 150

                              Not sure I'm seeing that

                              The 2 mile novices in britain are useless

                              The 3 mile novices look like Cheltenham grade 1 contenders
                              Couldn't agree more.

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                              • Originally posted by Runragged View Post
                                Indiana Dream 149. Been some good RPR's run this season though from first time out horses over the shorter trips. BANC looks much more open as is normally the case.
                                Monstrous RPR that, not least because it's his seasonal/chase debut but moreover his third ever life time start.

                                I think I might be right in saying only Iroko has bettered that first time up this season for novice chasers?

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