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2024 Novice Chasers

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  • I think I have to bite the bullet and accept I may have to do two bet's . It’s cowardly but my testosterone filled youth has long since flown.

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    • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post
      I am torn between doing the wtaf for Gio and waiting and backing him if he gets beat. I’m being tight as ideally I’m trying to limit to one bet. I think Sir Alex will win today but it’s a 55/45 think if that makes sense. I guess it’s why it’s called gambling. Anyone want to direct me either way?
      I thought about doing the same but sticking with just SAF as PN has milked this race in the past, he's in far better form than Lucinda and it was clear to all that SAF badly needed the run on debut. Long term SAF will be the better animal as well IMO.

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

        I thought about doing the same but sticking with just SAF as PN has milked this race in the past, he's in far better form than Lucinda and it was clear to all that SAF badly needed the run on debut. Long term SAF will be the better animal as well IMO.
        That’s fair logic. I’m not as bullish about SAF today but it’s the kind of get off the fence that makes sense

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        • In time I believe Giovinco will be the better horse but right now, Stay Away Fay would be the more mature of the pair, he's been in far deeper races,been asked for more in his races, faced more opposition and all of that makes him more mature, battle hardened if you like, that could be the difference today as ability wise, I think there's very little if anything in it,which means the 2/1 with the 3lbs is very tempting.

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          • I'd just be hoping to see SAF and Giovinco pull well clear of the other two

            Not to bothered who wins

            But for them to be BANC contenders I'd like to see them plenty clear of the changing man

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            • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

              Yeah, it's not too shabby, in all, I did say that many made encouraging debuts as well.

              Some of the horses who never finished in the Bartlett seem to have fared better than those that did finish. Favori Du Champdou was PU in the Bartlett but hammered Sandro Clegane & Affordale Fury in the Florida Pearl, Chianti Classico who was PU in the Bartlett is 2 from 2 over fences, albeit not stepped up into a graded race yet, and as you note Dawn Rising won at Royal Ascot, but was PU in the Bartlett.

              Maybe, just maybe, the Bartlett left its mark on some of them, like it has done in the past with some horses.

              Hopefully it's a good battle between Stay Away Fay & Giovinco today. If I was Gionvinco's rider I'd want to be well clear of Stay Away Fay going into the final furlong, as I wouldn't want a head to head battle with SAF as I think he's a very gutsy type.
              Yes ,half of the future winners were pulled up,but the first 4 and Corbetts Cross were the other 5. So could argue its proving to be a deep race. Hoping the 9th home franks the form further tomorrow...
              Last edited by Black Dog; 8 December 2023, 01:05 PM.

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              • He's not flashy but I actually think he's a really good staying chaser.

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                • Run that without the loose horse and I think the result gets reserved imo

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                  • Proper proper one, he's won that fairly easily there.

                    Eyeball him and he'll just find and find.

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                    • Originally posted by Zachx02 View Post
                      Run that without the loose horse and I think the result gets reserved imo
                      Not a chance imo! That seems wild.

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                      • Originally posted by Zachx02 View Post
                        Run that without the loose horse and I think the result gets reserved imo
                        Absolutely no chance, SAF was worse impeded than Gio at the pond fence.

                        Crazy thoughts that,worth another watch.

                        Best horse won by a fair way aswell.

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                        • Wow , Enjoyed that Race ! , The Loose Horse didn't help much , looked like Carnage when it went in between Stay away and Giovinco .

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                          • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                            If I was Gionvinco's rider I'd want to be well clear of Stay Away Fay going into the final furlong, as I wouldn't want a head to head battle with SAF as I think he's a very gutsy type.
                            He got him into a battle and obviously lost. Silly riding. Looked like he was schooling him most of the way, although he was keen for a fair part of the race.

                            Don't think there's an awful lot between them though. Stay Away Fay mostly stayed out of trouble, Giovinco got knocked about a bit from other jumpers, the unseated rider and then the loose horse.

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                            • …..looking like a best 6-1 BANC for SAF after that success. Plenty of 16-1 Giovinco and a little 20s.

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                              • That was a good battle between them.

                                Stay Away Fay just outstayed Giovinco on that ground imo. Jockey looked confident on Giovinco, both were hampered by the loose horse but don’t think it would have made too much of a difference.

                                Both jumped really well too, Gio slow at one down the back on second circuit other than that both were foot perfect.

                                Happy to have both covered, although Stay Away Fay has to be fav to uphold the form.

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