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2024 Novice Hurdlers
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Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View PostNoticed Tullyhill hit a Top Speed (TS) figure of 123, which is the second highest (behind Ballyburn (127), of course), of those top 8 in the betting for the Supreme, so far this season.
It is now likely, IMO, that Tullyhill won't be far off that magical RPR figure of 150, that some look for in the Supreme. I'm going for anywhere between 149-153 for him.
There is continuous pressure on Tullyhills price currently. He's been backed consistently, today, on the exchanges and the bookmakers.
I wouldn't pay much attention to that
Gidleigh park hit 123 and Captain Teague has hit a 132 and some would consider them to have next to no chance for the shorter novice hurdles
just for clarity I gave no idea how TS works just couldn't resist the opportunity
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Originally posted by Kevloaf View PostBooster Bob beaten ..... back to the drawing board Rooster Booster
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Originally posted by Exar Essay View PostSome stat from Paul Kealy on In The Know; Jeriko Reponet (132) is not rated high enough to have gotten into last years County Hurdle (134 - bottom weight). Quite a sobering stat as a backer.
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Originally posted by Exar Essay View PostSome stat from Paul Kealy on In The Know; Jeriko Reponet (132) is not rated high enough to have gotten into last years County Hurdle (134 - bottom weight). Quite a sobering stat as a backer.
The Irish don’t have much. Would have facile vega over Ballyburn, and Bally is heads a shoulders above anything else over there
the one think I would say about Jeriko is…. Jonbon ran a similarish race at Haydock before supreme and he failed to run a prep supreme RPR which would be consider “good enough”. Then improved loads going into his next two races
I’d rather back Jeriko over Tullyhill. Mystical Power, not feeling him, think he’s a ballymore type. Don’t like GE horses for supreme, Firefox could bounce back but think he was 120% to beat Ballyburn in a sprint
just think Jeriko could improve on, but then again, he could be another Angels Breath ;-(
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Does anyone know what’s the top speed of a horse? …34-35 mph was clocked during the last 2-3 furlongs of jeriko’s last race.
watched a few supremes and spotted 36 down the hill
Could Jeriko do anything more in is last run when they could have been sprinting to a point where…. he couldn’t really extend out and look impressive
jusy throwing it out there
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Originally posted by opatcho View PostDoes anyone know what’s the top speed of a horse? …34-35 mph was clocked during the last 2-3 furlongs of jeriko’s last race.
watched a few supremes and spotted 36 down the hill
Could Jeriko do anything more in is last run when they could have been sprinting to a point where…. he couldn’t really extend out and look impressive
jusy throwing it out there
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I’m interested to see how Staffordshire knott gets on if he runs on Thursday. Running over 2m5, same trip as BB, which is his only Cheltenham entry. To finish around 2 lengths behind RTW and lisnagar fortune on his first start on a racecourse, considering the other 2 were each having their 4th, that was a serious effort. If you look at the An Peann Diarg form line were finished just over 8 lengths in front of him on debut at level weights to beating him 21 lengths giving him 8lbs the last day probably shows how much he’s improved already. He certainly looks like he’ll improve again up in trip given how well he’s seen out his races. Only thing is he looks more of a relentless galloper than a horse with a gears so may not be suited to the BB as we know it can be slowly run and turn into a sprint finish. Also if Ballyburn runs here it’s game over for everyone. He’s definitely one I’ll be keeping a close eye on anyway
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Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
Frankel ran 43 mph which is a stat that lives rent free in my head
that frankel was able to do that over a mile likely tells you why hes the greatest horse to have lived and didnt lose despite having tom queally on his back
But that Quarter horses have been clocked at a staggering 55mph
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Originally posted by Studfarm254 View PostI’m interested to see how Staffordshire knott gets on if he runs on Thursday. Running over 2m5, same trip as BB, which is his only Cheltenham entry. To finish around 2 lengths behind RTW and lisnagar fortune on his first start on a racecourse, considering the other 2 were each having their 4th, that was a serious effort. If you look at the An Peann Diarg form line were finished just over 8 lengths in front of him on debut at level weights to beating him 21 lengths giving him 8lbs the last day probably shows how much he’s improved already. He certainly looks like he’ll improve again up in trip given how well he’s seen out his races. Only thing is he looks more of a relentless galloper than a horse with a gears so may not be suited to the BB as we know it can be slowly run and turn into a sprint finish. Also if Ballyburn runs here it’s game over for everyone. He’s definitely one I’ll be keeping a close eye on anyway
The other one that's really interesting me is Jimmy Du Seuil. Less than a length defeat (giving 7lbs, jockey claim) on debut behind Asian Master who then beat Better Days Ahead by 10 lengths next time out (getting a stone that time) with an RPR of 139 and seemingly booked a Supreme ticket. Won his maiden next time out easily, didn't jump great so hopefully can brush up in that department, but showed a nice turn of foot.
Willie has 5 entered so need to hope he gets declared.
Stoke The Fires not entered at Cheltenham but impressive on debut, Mahons Way for CP and recorded a 93 RPR in a PTP, Largy Hill could be a decent benchmark after getting close to Stellar Story, Magellan Strait is on debut but rated 101 on the flat, really excited for it. Could be a really competitive race.
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Originally posted by opatcho View Post
True but I think the novices are really poor this year
The Irish don’t have much. Would have facile vega over Ballyburn, and Bally is heads a shoulders above anything else over there
the one think I would say about Jeriko is…. Jonbon ran a similarish race at Haydock before supreme and he failed to run a prep supreme RPR which would be consider “good enough”. Then improved loads going into his next two races
I’d rather back Jeriko over Tullyhill. Mystical Power, not feeling him, think he’s a ballymore type. Don’t like GE horses for supreme, Firefox could bounce back but think he was 120% to beat Ballyburn in a sprint
just think Jeriko could improve on, but then again, he could be another Angels Breath ;-(
Trainer comments after his 2nd run tell me that.
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