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2024 Novice Hurdlers

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  • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

    Doubt he'll be getting 7lbs+ from the UK handicapper for a maiden win at the 4th attempt.
    I think it less than likely too, but as I say, wouldn’t be surprised if he did. Gordon’s talking horses tend to get spanked. I thought he’d be around 136, 137 in IRE.

    Edit: For a bit of context, My Mate Mozzie finished second in the Royal Bond to an average horse, then finished a 50 length 4th at the DRF and still got 146 for the County.
    Last edited by Exar Essay; 20 January 2024, 08:55 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

      In the same way you can use the excuse that Ballyburn wasn't as race fit, surely we can allow that Firefox didn't run to form last time as an equally valid reason to say he could be better next time?

      Even with Ballyburn in, there is no standout Supreme horse, and Ballyburn may well win at DRF and go Ballymore still, leaving Firefox's form comparable with anything else in it... I'd be surprised if Jack Kennedy didn't ride him
      Why would you think Firefox didn't run to form? 135 followed by 135 followed by 135 suggests he's performed consistently at that level doesn't it? Been given plenty of opportunities to run to a higher level too.

      The DRF point is a good one but the supreme being weak makes a DRF win for Ballyburn a catch 22 because it might look like low hanging fruit with Ballyburn, especially considering Willie has more firepower at the head of the Ballymore market than he has in the Supreme.

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      • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
        Would you trust king of kingsfield to actually find enough to win a competitive race?

        He'd need to be dropped on the line
        I absolutely would now. He looks a different horse with the new racing tactics. I actually think he’s have a good shout in the Supreme but the Country Hurdle looks tailor made.

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        • I know the race isn’t very deep at Thurles tomorrow but I can’t wait to see how High Class Hero has come back from his little break. I love his profile for the Albert Bartlett & have him onside along with Stellar Story.

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          • Originally posted by charlie View Post

            Why would you think Firefox didn't run to form? 135 followed by 135 followed by 135 suggests he's performed consistently at that level doesn't it? Been given plenty of opportunities to run to a higher level too.

            The DRF point is a good one but the supreme being weak makes a DRF win for Ballyburn a catch 22 because it might look like low hanging fruit with Ballyburn, especially considering Willie has more firepower at the head of the Ballymore market than he has in the Supreme.
            Because how many Gordon Elliott horses don't improve? (Probably some) but when he's lame after the race I think it's no unreasonable to think, they they, he's better than 135.

            I agree with them.

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            • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

              Because how many Gordon Elliott horses don't improve? (Probably some) but when he's lame after the race I think it's no unreasonable to think, they they, he's better than 135.

              I agree with them.
              Put, Kev mused

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              • Kevloaf Firefox is a sea of blue for supreme on odds checker

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                • No one has a clue who's going to win the opener. Crazy race.

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                  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                    No one has a clue who's going to win the opener. Crazy race.
                    Erm, I do

                    Firefox or Ballyburn.

                    Next.




                    Could be Courage, actually.

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                    • GE is going to send Firefox, Farren & Potter to Supreme….surely he will want to split as will Jack

                      He mentioned Potter going up in trip after last win…,so judging by Firefox move, do we assume that’s current plan?
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                      • Jeriko wins the Supreme. When you get the right vibes from the Hendo yard, just back the winner. Willie's aren't good enough over 2m this year. Ballyburn wins the Ballymore. One of Willie's or Paul's wins the Albert Bartlett.

                        (Hopefully it's that easy).

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                        • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post
                          Jeriko wins the Supreme. When you get the right vibes from the Hendo yard, just back the winner. Willie's aren't good enough over 2m this year. Ballyburn wins the Ballymore. One of Willie's or Paul's wins the Albert Bartlett.

                          (Hopefully it's that easy).
                          Jeriko
                          ballyburn
                          Predators gold

                          Simple

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                          • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                            Jeriko
                            ballyburn
                            Predators gold

                            Simple
                            I'm not sure Predators Gold will go to the Bartlett. I can see him winning the 2m6 race at the DRF but maybe stepping down at the festival to the Ballymore. Gonna be some chaser though.

                            If he went to the Bartlett he'd be my joint favourite for it at the moment.

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                            • Originally posted by SeanRock View Post
                              I know the race isn’t very deep at Thurles tomorrow but I can’t wait to see how High Class Hero has come back from his little break. I love his profile for the Albert Bartlett & have him onside along with Stellar Story.
                              Aye. I think he's really interesting now and not a bad price. His summer form actually looks quite respectable with those close behind proving average rather than terrible since. And the summer wins were on a right mix of grounds, so no concerns there. Hopefully he comes back in the same form and a nice mix of class and experience for the AB.

                              Watch him get turned over at 1/3 today now

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                              • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                                Erm, I do

                                Firefox or Ballyburn.

                                Next.




                                Could be Courage, actually.
                                Yep, Courage is one I'm looking forward to seeing run next week. His trainer thinks a fair bit of him. Not backed him yet.

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