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2024 Novice Hurdlers

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  • I am now coming round to the idea that Willie will send all three of Ballyburn, Mystical and Tullyhill to the Supreme. That's the vibe I'm getting.

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    • Noticed Shanagh Bob has been gradually shortening on the exchanges for the AB over the last week. He’s just under 9/1 now. Hes pretty much 10/1 across the board now but sky have him at 16/1 in their antepost section. Might interest some people from a value perspective

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      • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
        Readin Tommy Wrong now shorter for the Bartlett than the Ballymore on the exchanges. If this were to happen then I can imagine Willie will definitely be sending one of the other lot from the Supreme to the Ballymore, whether that be Ballyburn, Mystical Power, or another, I don't know.

        Think he'll end up with at least 3 in each race at this rate though.
        I was coming round to this view; but in the ATR video when discussing the Nathaniel Lacy, Willie says that Dancing City will go the Albert Bartlett with High Class Hero. It struck me as a bit odd that he didn't mentioned RTW if he thought he might head that way too.

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        • I heard the WPM/Matt Chapman interview (atr/Facebook) as Ballyburn will go BB if they are happy that he'll settle and the other 2 are likely going Supreme.
          Last edited by archie; 22 February 2024, 02:32 PM.

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          • We all hear what our pocket wants

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            • Originally posted by archie View Post
              I heard the WPM/Matt Chapman interview (atr/Facebook) as Ballyburn will go BB if they are happy that he'll settle and the other 2 are likely going Supreme.
              Completely opposite to what I took from it re Ballyburn Archie Sounded like Supreme all week long for him.

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              • Doubt there's much chance of Readin Tommy wrong going Bartlett now after largy hill winning there.

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                • Originally posted by archie View Post
                  I heard the WPM/Matt Chapman interview (atr/Facebook) as Ballyburn will go BB if they are happy that he'll settle and the other 2 are likely going Supreme.
                  He said the complete opposite. He said he'd have gone 2m5f if they thought he'd settle but he doesn't settle. Been saying that for months.

                  The other key thing to all of this is how much faith can Willie place in Tullyhill and MP. The former he's got wrong trip wise who won well enough the other day but wasn't brilliant. The latter is inexperienced and totally unexposed, but there couldn't be much confidence there.
                  Last edited by charlie; 22 February 2024, 03:40 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by riccirich View Post
                    Doubt there's much chance of Readin Tommy wrong going Bartlett now after largy hill winning there.
                    Nope, I'd agree, assuming they send Largy, of course.

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                    • Originally posted by riccirich View Post
                      Doubt there's much chance of Readin Tommy wrong going Bartlett now after largy hill winning there.
                      A boost for Stellar Story!

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                      • Originally posted by charlie View Post

                        He said the complete opposite. He said he'd have gone 2m5f if they thought he'd settle but he doesn't settle. Been saying that for months.

                        The other key thing to all of this is how much faith can Willie place in Tullyhill and MP. The former he's got completely wrong who won well enough the other day but wasn't brilliant. The latter is inexperienced and totally unexposed, but there couldn't be much confidence there.
                        It may also come down to Paul and ultimately nothing to do with Ballyburn. Would he rather ride Tullyhill in a Supreme or Ile Atlantique in a Ballymore, whichever is most likely would shift Ballyburn to the other, as he can win either race on him anyway. Given he's been beat on Ile Atlantique at the trip, and Daryl would ride Readin Tommy Wrong, there must be a case for Tullyhill (Supreme) / Ballyburn (Ballymore) being his rides too.

                        Unfortunately this situation is what happens when one man dominates certain divisions of the sport.
                        Last edited by ComplyOrDie; 22 February 2024, 03:46 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post

                          A boost for Stellar Story!
                          Still think he'd have a proper chance in the Bartlett too, hopefully they don't send him to the pipe.

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                          • Largy Hill: Fairyhouse and Punchestown the likely route according to Willie, not Cheltenham. But will see what double green say.

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                            • I suppose you could say...which does willie have more faith in....tullyhill/MP or il atlantique/predators/RTW...

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                              • Originally posted by riccirich View Post
                                Doubt there's much chance of Readin Tommy wrong going Bartlett now after largy hill winning there.
                                I thought it was a done deal Tommy going Ballymore from what Willie and Connections have said ?

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