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2024 Novice Hurdlers

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  • Nice performance, if ballyburn goes ballymore, I will be having the lot on Firefox

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    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

      Booster Bob wins all

      You have to back that, surely.
      Haha. It’s written in the stars

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      • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
        Would Tullyhill really nudge g1 2m winner Ballyburn to the other race?

        Yeah today was a much improved performance, but he had it ALL his own way, and 1 or 2 clearly not intent on getting too close today. I'd say Tullyhill would be Dannys ride in the race
        Is he nudging him away, or back to the race they've wanted him in all season?


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        • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

          Haha. It’s written in the stars
          Runs tomorrow at Carlisle

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          • Originally posted by Studfarm254 View Post
            McManus down to 2 darts now and with jeriko only entered Supreme, hopefully Mystical will step up. He also looks made for it and Ballyburn looks made for the supreme, although obviously you’d fancy him to win either. Did I ever mention how much I hate Willies bingo?
            Considering No Flies On Him was weak in the betting, outpaced when pace increased before running on again at the finish then wouldn't be surprised to see him turn up in the Baring Bingham.

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            • Made this point in related thread…,,but Bally & Tully habe similar running styles (both ideal for Supreme), but not sure Willie would want them in same race?

              Tully has to go Supreme I think, not least cos only entry
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              • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                Is he nudging him away, or back to the race they've wanted him in all season?

                The way willie was speaking, it sounded like he was thinking Supreme anyway post DRF in his interviews

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                • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post
                  Made this point in related thread…,,but Bally & Tully habe similar running styles (both ideal for Supreme), but not sure Willie would want them in same race?

                  Tully has to go Supreme I think, not least cos only entry
                  The double is still 49/1 in the B365 antepost market which I think is very reasonable.

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                  • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                    Runs tomorrow at Carlisle
                    Ideal prep

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                    • Originally posted by Runragged View Post

                      Considering No Flies On Him was weak in the betting, outpaced when pace increased before running on again at the finish then wouldn't be surprised to see him turn up in the Baring Bingham.
                      Fair enough if he wants to go there but he’ll only be there to make up the numbers. Personally I don’t think he’ll go at all

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                      • Apart from Bally, that was prob best novice hurdle performance I’ve seen of possibles for Supreme

                        Looked to have so much left …..prob better than Mystical?
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                        • Originally posted by TigerRolllllll View Post
                          Apart from Bally, that was prob best novice hurdle performance I’ve seen of possibles for Supreme

                          Looked to have so much left …..prob better than Mystical?
                          If Ballyburn goes Baring Bingham, we're left with a potentially very competitive Supreme. Day punters will be delighted with that.

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                          • If your Townend, you still favour the Ballyburn - Supreme and ile Atlantique - Baring Bingham plan I think.

                            That way, Townend starts off his meeting riding the very strong fave in the first race, something I'm sure he'd like as he probably won't be on the fave in the arkle or champion hurdle, and Lossiemouth would look like his only other strong fave on the day. Second fave would probably be Tullyhill who he'd have picked Ballyburn over. Then he likely takes on Slade steel, mystical power and reading Tommy wrong with ile Atlantique in a competitive race.

                            The alternative is saying he wants to ride tullyhill and Ballyburn, pushing Ballyburn to the baring Bingham. In this scenario he starts off the meeting on what won't be anywhere near as strong a fave at sp imo, as mystical power probably goes supreme to avoid Ballyburn and Townend doesn't have the option to ride him, and I think mystical power possibly starts fave. I think the first scenario still sounds preferable to me and probably still his best chance of winning both races imo.

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                            • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                              Booster Bob wins all

                              You have to back that, surely.
                              Reverse fcst with Jeriko

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                              • Originally posted by riccirich View Post
                                If your Townend, you still favour the Ballyburn - Supreme and ile Atlantique - Baring Bingham plan I think.

                                That way, Townend starts off his meeting riding the very strong fave in the first race, something I'm sure he'd like as he probably won't be on the fave in the arkle or champion hurdle, and Lossiemouth would look like his only other strong fave on the day. Second fave would probably be Tullyhill who he'd have picked Ballyburn over. Then he likely takes on Slade steel, mystical power and reading Tommy wrong with ile Atlantique in a competitive race.

                                The alternative is saying he wants to ride tullyhill and Ballyburn, pushing Ballyburn to the baring Bingham. In this scenario he starts off the meeting on what won't be anywhere near as strong a fave at sp imo, as mystical power probably goes supreme to avoid Ballyburn and Townend doesn't have the option to ride him, and I think mystical power possibly starts fave. I think the first scenario still sounds preferable to me and probably still his best chance of winning both races imo.
                                Without Ballyburn in the Supreme though he could be on Ile Atlantique or Tullyhill in an open looking Supreme with an even stronger 'banker' on Day 2

                                I don't think we have enough evidence to support your theory having any merit really.

                                I'm sure he'd like the fav in every race, but the horses going to the races where they have the best chance will surely be his thought process

                                Ultimately you're putting it down to Ile Atlantique being better than Tullyhill - which he may well be.... but being SP fav in the first race on Tues or Weds I doubt would have much impact

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