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2024 Novice Hurdlers

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  • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post
    If Mirazur West goes Supreme (more than 2m may be a stretch how he races imo) and Jeriko is only in the Supreme, then I can only see Mystical Power going Ballymore imo.

    If No Flies On Him shows up well at the DRF I don’t even think JP is silly enough to run 4 in the supreme. Mystical looks the obvious one to up in trip. That would also lead to Ballyburn in the Supreme if he wins the best 2m race in Ireland and then 3 favs from the best Ballymore trial in Ireland and the Moscow Flyer (which Impaire won last year en route to the Ballymore) with Mystical Power, Il Atlantique and Readin Tommy Wrong.

    Worth noting that Eddie O'Grady is hoping to step No Flies On Him up in trip, so I could see him being Ballymore bound and Walsh's ride there subject to a good performance at the DRF.

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    • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

      The quote from Willie in the RP today in the pricewise section very much suggested mystical power was going to the supreme
      What was said if you don't mind?

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      • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

        The quote from Willie in the RP today in the pricewise section very much suggested mystical power was going to the supreme
        Cheers FF, that’ll be that then

        Just out of interest, not just to you here FF, what are people’s current views on which is the easier race on paper, Supreme or Ballymore?

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        • "Mystical Power was very impressive at punchestoen and seems to be improving with every run, like his mother did. He would look an ideal candidate for the race. A lot of our other entries have multiple options and we'll know more after the DRF"

          That's what Willie said

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          • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post

            Cheers FF, that’ll be that then

            Just out of interest, not just to you here FF, what are people’s current views on which is the easier race on paper, Supreme or Ballymore?
            Ballymore for me, by a fair way.

            As it stands in the Supreme you've got the Royal Bond winner (who potentially could have won the Tolworth as well), the Moscow Flyer winner (although I'd be wary of the form of that race), plus you've got the a few more who have the potential to kick on from their debuts, the likes of Jeriko Du Reponet, No Flies On Him, Daddy Long Legs (if you believe the ground excuse for LTO), Slade Steel (could go for the Ballymore though), and coming up you have the key trial for the Supreme at the DRF. Horses like Firefox & Ile Atlantique could also find some better form dropping back to 2m, the former of which we know will as his trainer has said so.

            The Ballymore consists of a Lawlors Of Naas winner (which has question marks surrounding it, IMO), Ballyburn if he turns up, but could go Supreme should he win well at the DRF, and Gidleigh Park. Notable mention to Slade Steel who could also come here. Caldwell Potter may also come here though whether he even turns up to the festival is an unknown currently. Everything else in behind is pretty ordinary, IMO.

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            • I don't think either looks very strong at the moment

              That may change after Cheltenham and doncaster this weekend then the DRF the week after

              Both are murky as it stands

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              • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
                "Mystical Power was very impressive at punchestoen and seems to be improving with every run, like his mother did. He would look an ideal candidate for the race. A lot of our other entries have multiple options and we'll know more after the DRF"

                That's what Willie said
                Seems to imply the tattersalls as the destination. Ballymore winners have come from that, so I wouldn't say its case closed on where he ends up for me.

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                • Originally posted by CJW View Post

                  Seems to imply the tattersalls as the destination. Ballymore winners have come from that, so I wouldn't say its case closed on where he ends up for me.
                  That isn't what I took from it

                  I'd imagine he will go straight to the Supreme

                  And what happens at the drf will determine what else goes there and to the ballymore

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                  • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

                    Worth noting that Eddie O'Grady is hoping to step No Flies On Him up in trip, so I could see him being Ballymore bound and Walsh's ride there subject to a good performance at the DRF.
                    Interesting…..not seen that. Where did u see it Exar?
                    Fat Jockey Patron (est. Jan 2021)

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                    • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
                      That isn't what I took from it

                      I'd imagine he will go straight to the Supreme

                      And what happens at the drf will determine what else goes there and to the ballymore
                      For context, is 'the race' in the quote referring to the Supreme or the DRF race?

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                      • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post

                        For context, is 'the race' in the quote referring to the Supreme or the DRF race?
                        The Supreme

                        The quote is from the pricewise Supreme pages

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                        • ….Mirazur 18-1 NRNB Sup in Hills specials.

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                          • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                            The Supreme

                            The quote is from the pricewise Supreme pages
                            Aye, I think that's pretty clear then!

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                            • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                              Ballymore for me, by a fair way.

                              As it stands in the Supreme you've got the Royal Bond winner (who potentially could have won the Tolworth as well), the Moscow Flyer winner (although I'd be wary of the form of that race), plus you've got the a few more who have the potential to kick on from their debuts, the likes of Jeriko Du Reponet, No Flies On Him, Daddy Long Legs (if you believe the ground excuse for LTO), Slade Steel (could go for the Ballymore though), and coming up you have the key trial for the Supreme at the DRF. Horses like Firefox & Ile Atlantique could also find some better form dropping back to 2m, the former of which we know will as his trainer has said so.

                              The Ballymore consists of a Lawlors Of Naas winner (which has question marks surrounding it, IMO), Ballyburn if he turns up, but could go Supreme should he win well at the DRF, and Gidleigh Park. Notable mention to Slade Steel who could also come here. Caldwell Potter may also come here though whether he even turns up to the festival is an unknown currently. Everything else in behind is pretty ordinary, IMO.
                              I’d probably agree with the Ballymore at this stage but I wouldn’t say by much.

                              I know there is still a big part of the puzzle which will hopefully become clearer in the next 2 weekends.

                              I suppose I am looking at it from a Ballyburn perspective really, as I think he’ll run in what looks the weakest on paper.

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                              • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
                                "Mystical Power was very impressive at punchestoen and seems to be improving with every run, like his mother did. He would look an ideal candidate for the race. A lot of our other entries have multiple options and we'll know more after the DRF"

                                That's what Willie said
                                Just looking into this, it's a quote from patrick not willie himself. Just to be clear.

                                Patrick Mullins, assistant to Willie Mullins, was pleased with the performance of Mystical Power, a son of the yard's Champion Hurdle heroine Annie Power, at Punchestown but thinks the Closutton camp will know more about their novice plans at Cheltenham following next week's Dublin Racing Festival.

                                He said: "Mystical Power was very impressive at Punchestown and seems to be improving with every run, like his mother did. He would look an ideal candidate for the race.

                                "A lot of our other entries have multiple options and we'll know more after the Dublin Racing Festival."

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