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August ‘23 Yankee

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  • #76
    Originally posted by Black Dog View Post

    I think someone's getting an "F-,must try harder" on their maths homework
    Really. Educate me on where you think I have gone wrong.

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    • #77
      If your 4 shortest are 1/2,1/1,7/4,&2/1 it pays 23.75/1. So an even better bet.

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      • #78
        I do apologise I didn't notice you'd used Bet365, I was working on Skybet prices. Still a decent bet though.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Black Dog View Post
          I do apologise I didn't notice you'd used Bet365, I was working on Skybet prices. Still a decent bet though.
          8/15, 4/6, 2/1 and 2/1.

          Apology accepted. Thought I'd made a major error. Pride myself on my Maths so was worried age had done for me. Cheers.

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          • #80
            FWIW I have the suggested short priced horses in fourfolds already, but wouldn't consider them as yankee material. I find little point putting horses that are evens and 7/4 in a double this far out.

            I can find something today at better than evens or 7/4 to go with those kinds of prices, and I only run 50% of the risk of horses getting to the Festival.

            Faugheen Machine has proven already that getting novices and juveniles on board early is well worthwhile. It's just maybe a little too early right now, and the point of letting more information come out is a good one. I think perhaps it might be better next month when all the publications and stable interviews have been conducted.

            Just a couple of horses at decent prices in a double make these yankees worthwhile, and I'd suggest it may be worth putting a yankee together that opposes favourites. Plenty will get turned over during the Festival. We've already talked about Gerri Colmbe or Fastorslow to oppose Galopin for example, the Ryanair looks wide open, and an alternative to Gaelic Warrior in the Stayers would be sensible, etc.
            Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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            • #81
              JackieMoon33 Love your list and your input. Just curious why You Oughta Know isn't on it? I thought he looked very good beating Croke Park easily who has form with Barry The Butcher and He's My Hero.
              Last edited by HoldenTheReins; 26 July 2023, 07:59 PM.

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              • #82
                I think archie is right in respect of the novice hurdle races being very tricky, you only have to look at last season's winners for that.
                Most had barely been mentioned by now.
                To be fair, neither had the novice chasers aside from El Fabiolo, and GDM.

                The races to focus on should be the NH chase, triumph, arkle and maybe mares novice. (pretty sure Faugheen's big yankee win had at least 2 of these races and the gold cup included)

                These are Probably the four novice races that the target is slightly easier to predict in most years. Unless you go for a horse like a dream to share where it looks fairly obvious at the moment.
                Last edited by Quevega; 26 July 2023, 07:58 PM.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by HoldenTheReins View Post
                  JackieMoon33 Lover you list and your input. Just curious why You Oughta Know isn't on it? I thought he looked very good beating Croke Park easily who has form with Barry The Butcher and He's My Hero.
                  Despite the current pricing, I’d only be interested in him for the AB. However, I also like to have a horse from a PTP background too. Certainly nothing wrong with him and it was impressive, but I’ve got to keep the list in check.

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                  • #84
                    I’ll throw one in that I just want to get others opinions on really (feel free to move if this is the wrong thread for it). The way Dysart Enos tore the field apart at aintree really sticks in my mind but the form isn’t all that great looking back now is it? Fergal hasn’t trained a festival winner (correct me if I’m wrong) and the mares novice is always a tricky race even come the day but she will be held up off the pace you’d imagine and they often go too hard. Probably not one for the Yankee but I can’t work her out is 7/1 a good price? A terrible price? Or about right? If trained by Willie she’d be 3/1 but she’s not!

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by BagOfHammers View Post
                      I’ll throw one in that I just want to get others opinions on really (feel free to move if this is the wrong thread for it). The way Dysart Enos tore the field apart at aintree really sticks in my mind but the form isn’t all that great looking back now is it? Fergal hasn’t trained a festival winner (correct me if I’m wrong) and the mares novice is always a tricky race even come the day but she will be held up off the pace you’d imagine and they often go too hard. Probably not one for the Yankee but I can’t work her out is 7/1 a good price? A terrible price? Or about right? If trained by Willie she’d be 3/1 but she’s not!
                      I thought she looked an impressive horse, but the price right now doesn't seem right.
                      It's hard to imagine a horse of that profile getting a great deal shorter, unless she wins some serious races in the UK as a hurdler before xmas, rather than listed mares novice stuff. Especially when novice mares will emerge in Ireland to hold the price up.
                      Could happen, but unlikely.
                      But I do like the horse's chances at this early stage, based on all known form on the track.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by BagOfHammers View Post
                        I’ll throw one in that I just want to get others opinions on really (feel free to move if this is the wrong thread for it). The way Dysart Enos tore the field apart at aintree really sticks in my mind but the form isn’t all that great looking back now is it? Fergal hasn’t trained a festival winner (correct me if I’m wrong) and the mares novice is always a tricky race even come the day but she will be held up off the pace you’d imagine and they often go too hard. Probably not one for the Yankee but I can’t work her out is 7/1 a good price? A terrible price? Or about right? If trained by Willie she’d be 3/1 but she’s not!
                        I think you’re better looking at her Market Rasen win for form purposes where she was trapped wide throughout and still came off the bend to pick up a horse (Queens Gamble) who had won the listed bumper at the November meeting.
                        She was impressive at Aintree and we won’t know how strong that form is for a while, it might not look great now but it could turn out to be OK.

                        I’m with Dysart Enos at 25/1 for the Mares novice, but I couldn’t back her now at 7/1, I fully expect Mullins or HDB to have one currently chewing grass that we haven’t seen who will prove to be better…

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                        • #87
                          ….not seeing nominations for any of the novices who have already made their way into our monthly Yankees. Not sure if this means they’re no longer popular but they are surely worth considering;

                          Stay Away Fay/Nick Rocket (BANC)
                          Maxuum,(NHC)
                          Brighterdaysahead (MNH)
                          Mister Policeman (Ark)
                          Last edited by Eggs; 28 July 2023, 07:37 AM.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                            ….not seeing any nominations for any of the novices who have already made their way into our monthly Yankees. Not sure if this means they’re no longer popular but they are surely worth considering;

                            Stay Away Fay/Nick Rocket (BANC)
                            Maxuum,(NHC)
                            Brighterdaysahead (MNH)
                            Mister Policeman (Ark)
                            Chapeau de Soleil - Supreme
                            At 40/1 this one has to be value...

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

                              Chapeau de Soleil - Supreme
                              At 40/1 this one has to be value...
                              What am I missing? Hype horse from last season who never delivered, looks a difficult ride too. Rather back him at 10s after showing me something than wasting a pt now.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Kautostar View Post

                                What am I missing? Hype horse from last season who never delivered, looks a difficult ride too. Rather back him at 10s after showing me something than wasting a pt now.
                                I'd be inclined to agree. Looks to have a big engine but he'll need more than that to reach the top.

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