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2024 Champion Hurdle (Previously Constitution Hill thread)

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  • Originally posted by robith View Post

    "No people in our world, the people that walk the courses, know the horses and have to accept the consequences of what happens when you run on that ground, there's no possible way we would've taken that chance.

    "It would've been suicidal, stupid and in the interest of horse welfare, we should've been banned for life if we had."

    The inference is accidental, but clear
    Wow
    if this is what he said then he deserves a ban anyway
    give him a tin of paint and he can run naked throwing it across the track.

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    • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

      Not understanding your point here Lobos.
      Heavy ground here would be described as G/S in Ireland. Their Heavy is proper Heavy. We are wimps.

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

        Heavy ground here would be described as G/S in Ireland. Their Heavy is proper Heavy. We are wimps.
        I thought the ground had to be called as it is!!
        Heavy is heavy.
        Are you saying it was good/soft at Sandown today?

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        • No one has moaned at all about the ground today as far as I'm aware. It's just good old testing NH ground. Perfectly ok for racing and could quite comfortably take a fair bit of rain yet.

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          • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

            I thought the ground had to be called as it is!!
            Heavy is heavy.
            Are you saying it was good/soft at Sandown today?
            It would be if Sandown was in Ireland today.

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            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

              Heavy ground here would be described as G/S in Ireland. Their Heavy is proper Heavy. We are wimps.
              So good to soft here is firm in Ireland?

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              • It's nowhere near as bad as Clonmel the other day when Cash Back walked home!

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                • Originally posted by robith View Post

                  "No people in our world, the people that walk the courses, know the horses and have to accept the consequences of what happens when you run on that ground, there's no possible way we would've taken that chance.

                  "It would've been suicidal, stupid and in the interest of horse welfare, we should've been banned for life if we had."

                  The inference is accidental, but clear
                  So he felt the ground was dangerous and pulled his horse.
                  Is that not just his opinion?
                  And he felt it was irresponsible to run him?
                  Again his opinion?

                  The inference I get from that is he was seriously concerned about the welfare of his horse if he ran him.
                  Part of the trainers job I would have thought.



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                  • The issue with this logic is…. if it came up Heavy at Cheltenham, would Henderson run or pull Con Hill out

                    has nothing to do with the safety of the horse, and all about targeting a certain race

                    that’s all he has to say, “out target is the Cheltenham festival, we want to run this and that race, before hand, and running him over testing ground will impact that”

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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                      It would be if Sandown was in Ireland today.
                      Then it would be described incorrectly.
                      Not good at all for trainers trying to place their horses.

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                      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                        Heavy ground here would be described as G/S in Ireland. Their Heavy is proper Heavy. We are wimps.
                        Ireland need another description for worse than heavy

                        Swamp is my suggestion

                        Clonmel was a swamp the other day, took cash back 5 minutes to cover the last 2 furlongs

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                        • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

                          So good to soft here is firm in Ireland?
                          Yes. You've got it Rooster.

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                          • Originally posted by opatcho View Post
                            The issue with this logic is…. if it came up Heavy at Cheltenham, would Henderson run or pull Con Hill out

                            has nothing to do with the safety of the horse, and all about targeting a certain race

                            that’s all he has to say, “out target is the Cheltenham festival, we want to run this and that race, before hand, and running him over testing ground will impact that”
                            Sorry, missed some of today…. what quotes do we have from Hendo re his runner’s tomorrow?

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                            • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                              Then it would be described incorrectly.
                              Not good at all for trainers trying to place their horses.
                              I'll leave it there.

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                              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                                I'll leave it there.
                                Fair enough, don’t blame you.

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