2024 Champion Hurdle (Previously Constitution Hill thread)

[Bollinger]

According to Josh Stacey, Nico has stated that Constitution Hill didn’t school over fences. That surprised me.

Hendo confirmed on Nick Luck’s podcast that indeed, he never schooled over fences.

[FinalFurlong91]

With so much (great) discussion about the Arkle, Supreme winners and ratings I just thought I'd remind FJs that Mister Policeman recorded an RPR of 150 on his debut for Mullins, which was his 3rd start.
Saxon Warrior puts in some incredible work to make it easy for idiots like me to steal, his summary of what it takes to win a standard Supreme is a pre race RPR of 150, this suggests that had Mister Policeman been in Mullins hands a little earlier he could easily have been a major player and if he had been somewhere close to Marine National and Facile Vega, which the ratings given suggest he would have been entitled to do, then right now he would be somewhere sub 10/1 for the Arkle, and had he won the race he would surely be 3/1 fav, or where Marine Nationale currently is.
We all know form over timber doesn't always translate to fences but Mister Policeman has fallen conveniently under the radar because he hasn't been seen/shown his hand, and for that we should be grateful because he is remarkably still 20/1 for those with 365 accs.
The Supreme 1-2 are priced on their Supreme runs, which is normal, I can't help thinking that it will take one canter round some gaff track beating pigs by a furlong and a few post race comments for Mister Policeman's price to bomb.
I can only press at 16/1....

Yup

Iv covered him for the arkle and the turners

Could be anything

[Lobos]

Love Envoi potentially tackling Constitution Hill......

Horse Jockey Trainer Owner


Fighting Fifth will be looked at for classy mare ‘until the last minute

Love Envoi could make her seasonal debut against Constitution Hill, as the BetMGM Fighting Fifth Hurdle at Newcastle is considered by connections.

Harry Fry’s mare is an eight-time winner who landed the 2022 Dawn Run at the Cheltenham Festival at the height of an unbeaten run that lasted until the final start of her novice season.

Last term she stepped into open company and held her own, winning a handicap and then a Listed event at Sandown before going down by a length and a half when beaten by Honeysuckle in the Close Brothers Mares’ Hurdle at the Festival this year.

Her final run was an uncharacteristic beaten effort in the Mares Champion Hurdle at Punchestown, but an injury later proved to be the cause of that disappointment – which was the first time she had been out of the top two in her life.

The issue has left her a little late in her preparation for this season but she is faring well at home and if Fry is content she will return to action at the highest level in a race that is also the likely destination of Nicky Henderson’s superstar.

“Harry’s very happy with her, the plan was always to look at the Fighting Fifth,” said Noel Fehily of owners Noel Fehily Racing Syndicates.

“She’s not guaranteed to go there, depending on how she’s training up to the time of the race, but if Harry’s happy with her she’ll go.

“If not she probably won’t start under after Christmas because there’s not a lot else for her. We will be looking at the Fighting Fifth closely until the last minute and we will see how she’s working.”

On the possibility of facing the unbeaten Constitution Hill, he added: “With the mares’ allowance she’d be the next best thing I suppose, it’d be a lovely place to go and start but she did have a hold up.

“She was late coming into training but if Harry feels she’s ready to go then she’ll go.”

[Magpie]

Let’s hope so, will be there, so hoping for some company for CH. Great to see CH back, owner was really overwhelmed to see the Northumbrians come out in force. We don’t see many greats.

[Eggs]

…..PP have ‘cumulative winning distance’ offers for the season;

50L or more 5/4
75L or more 5/2
100L or more 16-1

[Zachx02]

…..PP have ‘cumulative winning distance’ offers for the season;

50L or more 5/4
75L or more 5/2
100L or more 16-1

He's running 3 times before the fes isn't he? FF, Christmas hurdle and international hurdle as its been moved to trials day

[Istabraq]

…..PP have ‘cumulative winning distance’ offers for the season;

50L or more 5/4
75L or more 5/2
100L or more 16-1

So under 50l should be what, 10/1 ?
I'd be backing that before if I could....

[Exar Essay]

So under 50l should be what, 10/1 ?
I'd be backing that before if I could....

4/5 surely?

[Istabraq]

4/5 surely?

4/5, 5/4, 5/2, 16/1
Some book percentage that....

[Exar Essay]

4/5, 5/4, 5/2, 16/1
Some book percentage that....

They aren’t ranges are they? So if you bet ‘Over 50’ and he wins by 51 or 151 you win. I could be reading it wrong.

[Istabraq]

They aren’t ranges are they? So if you bet ‘Over 50’ and he wins by 51 or 151 you win. I could be reading it wrong.

Yeah you’re right,…

[TigerRolllllll]

Might do YWIW fcast…..v game mare & maybe value

[RufusFlynn]

Newcastle OFF tomorrow.

[Kevloaf]

Newcastle OFF tomorrow.

Booooooooooooo

[Magpie]

Bloody typical. First bit of real crap weather we have had.