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Impaire received the “special” tag didn’t he and Willie usually likes to give his ‘special’ horses every chance of fulfilling their promise over hurdles. He has also already suggested SM stays over hurdles by saying something along the lines of, it’s easier to keep them sound over hurdles… we’re all guessing aren’t we but my take would be that they both stay over hurdles unless maybe they get beat at Punchestown?
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Impaire looks a big chasing type to me
Made for a fence and hopefully that is where he goes
Has the perfect blend of speed and stamina for the turners and could develop into a gold cup contender over timeComment
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Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
Agree that he looks every inch a Chaser. Willie has State Man for the Champion Hurdle and he may not have stopped improving. He'll not throw both of them at the race. Id think he'll go Arkle though IF C Hill doesn't.Comment
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I think Constitution Hill will end up in the Arkle next year, then stepping up at Aintree to 2m4f. This would then pave the way for a Gold Cup shot the following season as an open chaser.
I agree as racing fans, if he takes to fences as well as we think, then the prospect of him going Champion Chase would be fantastic. At the end of the day though it doesn’t really change anything re having a shot at the Gold Cup, as that will more than likely be 2025 regardless.
In terms of superstardom, has there ever been a horse win the big 3 championship races? That may tempt them, it’ll possibly depend on how good Energumene and El Fab look next season.Comment
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I do hope he goes chasing and personally think he will. He'll probably take the same route as Sprinter and Altior in their Novice seasons in that his final prep will be the Game Spirit. It's at that point that things may change. Whilst the aforementioned went Arkle, C Hill could go Champion Chase depending on what position El Fabiolo and Energumene are in.
In other words, as at February 2024 we will still not know which way he goes.
Of course, he may not take to fences at all in which case he'd revert back to winning another Churdle which will add to the pain for us AP punters.
Enjoy the ride though !!Comment
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If I owned him and he'd just won the game spirit and had looked fine over fences. But the Champion Chase looked hot.Originally posted by Lobos View Post
I'd run in the Champion Hurdle.
Fuck novice company.
He's no novice.Comment
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Agree and I think Mr Buckley will agree too. El Fabiolo is just coming out of Novice company and Energumene has had everything fall his way the last two years with the weather and the race falling apart It's there on a plate for The Hill IMO. Go for it. Mr B will regret it if they don't. Hendo will try and persuade him to go the easy route but Michael needs to stand firm.Originally posted by Quevega View PostComment
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How many horses have won a Champion Hurdle and Champion Chase?
Is it any?
Have any tried?
I would love to see that.Comment
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Look up a horse called flyingblot kev, never won both but won the champion chase and ran in the champion hurdle the day after and finished 3rdOriginally posted by Kevloaf View PostComment
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Certainly none in my time but then none have tried. That's why he should go for it. He's certainly good enough. I see no reason at all why he wouldn't jump a fence and he's just got too much pace and power for the likes of Energumene and El Fabiolo. He'd murder them.Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
I don't see them doing a Coneygree with him though as taking on GDC as a Novice might just be a step too far.......even for The Hill !!Last edited by Lobos; 22 March 2023, 10:56 AM.Comment
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Sizing Europe got close I think - ahead at the second last in the champion hurdle before losing his action. Went on to win champion chaseOriginally posted by Kevloaf View PostComment
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Not in successive seasons though. That's a huge difference.Originally posted by Odin View PostComment
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Yeah I know Flyingbolt ... better than Arkle, 'they' say.Originally posted by Nwfb89 View PostComment
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Ah yes, I'd just missed Sizing Europe's hurdle campaign, when I got 'in to it' Sizing Europe won the Arkle ..... didn't remember him as a Champion Hurdler, and did ultimately fall short.Originally posted by Odin View Post
Glad it's really rare, fits with the 'adventure' that the owner mused about on Luck on Sunday.
Rock On Ruby CH then flopping in an Arkle by walloping a fence early on lives long in the memory, which isn't really relevant but just popped into my headComment
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If you owned State Man what would you do?
For me it’s a no brainier, stay hurdling. Plenty of grade 1s and prize money to mop up in Ireland. Have a crack at Constitution Hill each year and call Buckley a coward for not going to the Gold Cup like he’s implied.
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