March 2023 Yankee

[Exar Essay]

Agree on Teahupoo for stayers and I also like Stage Star in the Ryanair. How about Blazing Khal for the Browns? Ran with credit in the stayers despite a far from ideal prep. There was talk of him chasing in 2022-23 last spring before they stuck to hurdling. 8 next year. Now or never!

Just on BK, Charles Byrnes says he didn’t stay and didn’t get up the hill. A but off putting for a BANC antepost bet.

[Nwfb89]

Just on BK, Charles Byrnes says he didn’t stay and didn’t get up the hill. A but off putting for a BANC antepost bet.

not sure I could buy that quote, he won over c+d as 5 yo last season didn't he?! All be it might have been a slower run race slightly better ground etc

[Exar Essay]

not sure I could buy that quote, he won over c+d as 5 yo last season didn't he?! All be it might have been a slower run race slightly better ground etc

Yes, but championship pace changes things. Beating Gelino Bello and a few also rans isn’t the same. I’m not going to second guess him. There’s no benefit to him spinning a yarn. It rings true too. Did seem to go out like a light.

[Nwfb89]

Yes, but championship pace changes things. Beating Gelino Bello and a few also rans isn’t the same. I’m not going to second guess him. There’s no benefit to him spinning a yarn. It rings true too. Did seem to go out like a light.

Surely the poor/rushed prep maybe a contributing factor, I don't reckon he was 100% but they decided to roll the dice as many do with cheltenham, see he's still talking about going 3 m just on a flat track now

[Always a Claimer]

Yes, but championship pace changes things. Beating Gelino Bello and a few also rans isn’t the same. I’m not going to second guess him. There’s no benefit to him spinning a yarn. It rings true too. Did seem to go out like a light.

I’m personally willing to take the chance. It sounded like a general comment about the day, rather than generally doesn’t stay. I think the “going out like a light” is more to do with lack of prep. But I suppose that is why there is juice in the price and he could end up in Turners. I would be staggered if he didn’t go chasing. But I get it - there are probably safer bets.

[Exar Essay]

I’m personally willing to take the chance. It sounded like a general comment about the day, rather than generally doesn’t stay. I think the “going out like a light” is more to do with lack of prep. But I suppose that is why there is juice in the price and he could end up in Turners. I would be staggered if he didn’t go chasing. But I get it - there are probably safer bets.

Yeah not trying to put you off, just there’s enough doubts for me not to want to bet on him at his price at this stage. I think GW and SAF are much better bets at this point in time. I’d prefer a Yankee without him.

[Exar Essay]

Surely the poor/rushed prep maybe a contributing factor, I don't reckon he was 100% but they decided to roll the dice as many do with cheltenham, see he's still talking about going 3 m just on a flat track now

The quote suggests the rushed prep wasn’t ideal but Charles is keen to blame his inability to stay rather than the injury. As I say, not trying to put you off, but I think there’s better bets in the race at this stage for a Yankee. A likely target is what I’d want from all four selections and this quote has to muddy the waters re Blazing Khal’s destination (or even participation given the specific reference to the hill).

[Nwfb89]

Yeah not trying to put you off, just there’s enough doubts for me not to want to bet on him at his price at this stage. I think GW and SAF are much better bets at this point in time. I’d prefer a Yankee without him.

Agreed re stay away fay being a better bet, pretty much nailed on to be his target you would have thought

[Fouroverthrutwo]

I like JE GARDE 20/1 mares novice hurdle..on only her 2nd start she was put into the triumph hurdle so they must think shes got alot of ability, her 1 run in france on very soft ground looks ok form wise, she was 3rd in that and the 1st and 2nd have won well since, retains novice status with some course experience its a good start point for me

Taken from Willie's race preview on Friday:

"Je Garde (Mikey O’Sullivan) is a nicely bred filly who was third in a hurdle at Auteuil on soft ground. She lacks experience for a race like this but is one to keep an eye on for the future".

[Eggs]

….personally think Stay Away Fay is going under the radar for BANC given Nicholls comments about him being a staying chaser. 16-1 seems reasonable for the AB winner. As an alternative, Gaelic Warrior has been given a severe haircut for the same race so it might be worth getting him onside if 20-1 or similar is still available at the end of the month.

[Ice]

….personally think Stay Away Fay is going under the radar for BANC given Nicholls comments about him being a staying chaser. 16-1 seems reasonable for the AB winner. As an alternative, Gaelic Warrior has been given a severe haircut for the same race so it might be worth getting him onside if 20-1 or similar is still available at the end of the month.

Totally agree about stay away fay, i was very impressed with him and it was only his third run for paul nicholls so plenty of improvement to come, add in the fact that his trainer knows a thing or two about staying chasers and the 16/1 looks decent to me.

[BuckingThe Trend]

A thought from a new boy ref the March 2023 Yankee. Rather than including Flat or summer jumps what about going with the Grand National, King George and then two from Cheltenham 2024. For example Corach Rambler (GN), Bravemansgame (KG), State Man (Champion Hurdle) and Constitution Hill (QMCC). Obviously the Cheltenham two are in effect a kind of Related Double.

And for the record, anyone else think L'Homme Presse is a forgotten horse for 2024 Gold Cup ?

[Eggs]

A thought from a new boy ref the March 2023 Yankee. Rather than including Flat or summer jumps what about going with the Grand National, King George and then two from Cheltenham 2024. For example Corach Rambler (GN), Bravemansgame (KG), State Man (Champion Hurdle) and Constitution Hill (QMCC). Obviously the Cheltenham two are in effect a kind of Related Double.

And for the record, anyone else think L'Homme Presse is a forgotten horse for 2024 Gold Cup ?

….I think we have used a GN selection in a previous March Yankee. We could always do a Canadian if MoM thinks there’s a strong case for an Aintree addition.

[somer1]

Fuck the GN. wont see a penny of my money.

[RufusFlynn]

Love Envoi - Mares - 10/1

I would think a repeat bid is just about certain. 4 lengths clear of Queens Brook who is a good enough marker for the grade/mares races. Like someone else said, no Honeysuckle next year. Yes there will be some come from the novices but IMO they rarely go on so the fact she is now basically proven at the level for similar odds to the likes of You Wear It Well and is double that of Lossiemouth means she has to be the best value for the race at this stage.