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  • I'm tempted to go in again on Willmount/Supreme......20's will look huge after tomorrow. He's Nicky's Number 1 Supreme hope.

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    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
      I'm tempted to go in again on Willmount/Supreme......20's will look huge after tomorrow. He's Nicky's Number 1 Supreme hope.
      How do you come to that conclusion ?

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
        I'm tempted to go in again on Willmount/Supreme......20's will look huge after tomorrow. He's Nicky's Number 1 Supreme hope.
        If that’s true Lobos, how come he’s declared to run in the Challow over 2 1/2? It doesn’t seem the usual Nicky prep for his Supreme types? Yes, Shishkin ran in the Sidney Banks, but I can’t recall many others doing the same and then running in the Supreme?

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        • Couldn't have him on my mind for the Supreme on the back of a Challow.

          Jeriko is running tomorrow as well. Who appears to actually be Henderson's number one, based on hype anyway....

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          • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
            Couldn't have him on my mind for the Supreme on the back of a Challow.

            Jeriko is running tomorrow as well. Who appears to actually be Henderson's number one, based on hype anyway....
            Completely agree, would be a lot lower on the list for a supreme if he’s winning the challow that easily.

            The way he’s split the 2 of them says it all imo. Jeriko he’s tenderly handling and will be upped in Grade on his final start before Cheltenham. Willmount could and has shown a lot more up to now hence going in deeper waters sooner.

            Would be Ballymore or Albert Bartlett.

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            • Willmount missed his intended race due to cancellation and Newbury just fitted in well . He's the better of the two IMO so has been trusted to run in the better race which is why they have been switched around (Jeriko was initially the choice for the Challow). Hope that helps Q

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              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                Willmount missed his intended race due to cancellation and Newbury just fitted in well . He's the better of the two IMO so has been trusted to run in the better race which is why they have been switched around (Jeriko was initially the choice for the Challow). Hope that helps Q
                That’s not true Lobos. Jeriko was never pencilled in for the Challow. This was always Jeriko’s intended port of call. Doncaster was a back up.

                I’ve no opinion on which is better at the moment, but what I know for fact is that Jeriko has had a slower build up (deliberately) given his relative inexperience.

                There’s all kinds of mutterings as to Willmount’s preferred route (his owner makes you grateful for those who say nothing), but Jeriko’s has always been this.

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                • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post


                  There’s all kinds of mutterings as to Willmount’s preferred route (his owner makes you grateful for those who say nothing), but Jeriko’s has always been this.
                  Me and Olly have been having plenty of back and forth over twitter.. Like you say, no wonder some keep their gob shut, what an arsehole

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                  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                    Willmount missed his intended race due to cancellation and Newbury just fitted in well . He's the better of the two IMO so has been trusted to run in the better race which is why they have been switched around (Jeriko was initially the choice for the Challow). Hope that helps Q
                    Is the Hendo's FJ account? You seem to have insider word? Or you just making stuff up?

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                    • …PP;

                      Jeriko & Sup 8-1
                      Willmount & Ballymore 20-1; AB 40-1
                      Johnnywho & Bally 50-1; AB 40-1
                      Capt Teague & Bally 50-1
                      Last edited by Eggs; 30 December 2023, 11:44 AM.

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                      • Originally posted by jack1092 View Post

                        Is the Hendo's FJ account? You seem to have insider word? Or you just making stuff up?
                        A pinch of insider as know owners and details re Willmount from previous trainer Neil Mulholland and definitely not making anything up. Supreme is currently the target for him and today's Challow run is not by choice . Just fits in with timing and other horses.

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                        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                          A pinch of insider as know owners and details re Willmount from previous trainer Neil Mulholland and definitely not making anything up. Supreme is currently the target for him and today's Challow run is not by choice . Just fits in with timing and other horses.
                          What about the bit about Jeriko's original target being the Challow ? Who told you that ?

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                          • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                            What about the bit about Jeriko's original target being the Challow ? Who told you that ?
                            Previous comments from Nicky. Have delved deep to try and dig it out but can't find it.

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                            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                              A pinch of insider as know owners and details re Willmount from previous trainer Neil Mulholland and definitely not making anything up. Supreme is currently the target for him and today's Challow run is not by choice . Just fits in with timing and other horses.
                              I see Lobos. Reading his tweets that he deleted by any chance?




                              "Nicky didn't really want to run Willmount over 2 1/2 but as he's the more experienced/forward of the two (Jeriko) then he's running in the Challow as opposed to Jeriko. Ideally they'd like to have stuck to 2m but both needed to run and running then against each other prior to the Fez isn't an option.​"


                              If Willmount is more experienced and forward than Jeriko, what does that say about the one running at Ascot in the G1 over 2mile? More of a 2miler than Willmount?

                              I ain't as versed on the UK fixture list (full of drab) but i'm sure there was another option for a 2m supreme horse than 2m4 1/2f . But who knows.


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                              • Can't help you there Jack. Never been on Twitter in my life and never will and no idea re the Aintree horse. Perhaps others can help with him ?

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