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[Istabraq]

riccirich
It's a sound idea but one that is pretty much guaranteed to lose you multiple accounts....

[riccirich]

riccirich
It's a sound idea but one that is pretty much guaranteed to lose you multiple accounts....

People could just do the bet in a betting shop if they wanted, since it would be announced in advance what time the bet is going out so you'd have plenty of time to head down and get your slip ready, or just use an online betting account with one of the smaller companies that doesn't get much use anyway because of no cashout option and no decent offers etc., one that you wouldn't care much about losing.

We'd be betting on horses that are pretty large odds, around the 33/1+ mark, as I'd assume those would be the easiest to get backed down to single figures or close to it so we could then lay off. So the amount of such horses that would actually win would be pretty small you'd imagine, so you may get a little life out of the account with that being the case? Or if someone was really against losing any account you could just do it in shop as I said. Or just back it on the exchange if that would help the lifespan of an account?

It's just a thought, after Cheltenham every year this place goes very quiet for a good while, it could be something to do during the flat season for a bit of fun.

[Kautostar]

People could just do the bet in a betting shop if they wanted, since it would be announced in advance what time the bet is going out so you'd have plenty of time to head down and get your slip ready, or just use an online betting account with one of the smaller companies that doesn't get much use anyway because of no cashout option and no decent offers etc., one that you wouldn't care much about losing.

We'd be betting on horses that are pretty large odds, around the 33/1+ mark, as I'd assume those would be the easiest to get backed down to single figures or close to it so we could then lay off. So the amount of such horses that would actually win would be pretty small you'd imagine, so you may get a little life out of the account with that being the case? Or if someone was really against losing any account you could just do it in shop as I said.

It's just a thought, after Cheltenham every year this place goes very quiet for a good while, it could be something to do during the flat season for a bit of fun.

Definitely an account closer. By the time people get to the betting shops the odds would have shortened drastically so wouldn’t be worth the journey.
The idea is good in principle but in this day and age all our accounts would be marked in no time

[riccirich]

Definitely an account closer. By the time people get to the betting shops the odds would have shortened drastically so wouldn’t be worth the journey.
The idea is good in principle but in this day and age all our accounts would be marked in no time

But if you knew what time the bet is going out, say notification is announced an hour in advance, it'd be plenty of time for a lot of the forum to head to a betting shop and get they're slip ready no?
and even in that one hour time period if the horses odds shortened from 40 to 33 or from 33 to 28 it'd be no big deal given once the forum backed it the odds would drop significantly again.

It's not that I'm desperately trying to push the idea or anything, it's just I'm not sure that's a reason why it wouldn't work.

[OverTheLast]

But if you knew what time the bet is going out, say notification is announced an hour in advance, it'd be plenty of time for a lot of the forum to head to a betting shop and get they're slip ready no?
and even in that one hour time period if the horses odds shortened from 40 to 33 or from 33 to 28 it'd be no big deal given once the forum backed it the odds would drop significantly again.

It's not that I'm desperately trying to push the idea or anything, it's just I'm not sure that's a reason why it wouldn't work.

It honestly takes 2 bets of £25 EW at 50/1 for a horse to collapse.

[riccirich]

It honestly takes 2 bets of £25 EW at 50/1 for a horse to collapse.

If that's genuinely true for on the day markets then I could just do it by myself

[Quevega]

Not sure the losing accounts paranoia is completely valid.
But totally understand why people feel that way.

It's the same as any tipped horse. I don't see why the numbers on here would differ drastically from the tips of an average weekly tipster. Of which there are plenty.

[riccirich]

Not sure the losing accounts paranoia is completely valid.
But totally understand why people feel that way.

It's the same as any tipped horse. I don't see why the numbers on here would differ drastically from the tips of an average weekly tipster. Of which there are plenty.

The numbers and money put down by the forum would actually have to exceed that of your average weekly tipster I think, as the only free tipster I've seen who genuinely always moves markets is Hugh Taylor, though theyre may be more I've not seen. The likes of Andy holding, Steve Ryder and Matt brocklebank etc have very little effect.

But I could easily see the forum being able to do that, as I can't imagine too many are wagering big sums on Andy holding tips for example which always usually slim odds, and they have no tipping record or roi on display.

And those who I know who back the high Taylor longshots early and then lay off always seem to get about six months out of the account, so I'd imagine it might be something similar for a forum weekly pick, or as I say just be ready in the betting shop.

[Quevega]

The numbers and money put down by the forum would actually have to exceed that of your average weekly tipster I think, as the only free tipster I've seen who genuinely always moves markets is Hugh Taylor, though theyre may be more I've not seen. The likes of Andy holding, Steve Ryder and Matt brocklebank etc have very little effect.

But I could easily see the forum being able to do that, as I can't imagine too many are wagering big sums on Andy holding tips for example which always usually slim odds, and they have no tipping record or roi on display.

And those who I know who back the high Taylor longshots early and then lay off always seem to get about six months out of the account, so I'd imagine it might be something similar for a forum weekly pick, or as I say just be ready in the betting shop.

Gotcha, you mean to be able to move the price.
Overnight we would or like with the Naaid antepost.
Be more workable with the proviso that the intention is no laying off but if possible then so be it.
Not everyone uses the exchange on here anyhow.

[Kautostar]

Not sure the losing accounts paranoia is completely valid.
But totally understand why people feel that way.

It's the same as any tipped horse. I don't see why the numbers on here would differ drastically from the tips of an average weekly tipster. Of which there are plenty.

I think our accounts would soon get linked if this plunge happened on a regular basis and it’s the same accounts every time. Then if a few of the gambles land it would be game over

[Quevega]

I think our accounts would soon get linked if this plunge happened on a regular basis and it’s the same accounts every time. Then if a few of the gambles land it would be game over

Yeah , winning wouldn't help, that's for sure.
probably be alright though

[riccirich]

Gotcha, you mean to be able to move the price.
Overnight we would or like with the Naaid antepost.
Be more workable with the proviso that the intention is no laying off but if possible then so be it.
Not everyone uses the exchange on here anyhow.

I'd think it would have to be day of the race as I think the amounts that you can put on overnight are very limited in my experience anyway, although I'm not sure if that is also the case in shops or not.

If there was no laying off then your losing the edge though, the point would be to take advantage of such a large community to drive the price down and then lay off for a risk free chance of a big payout every week. People could just not lay off and just join in and back it for fun if they wanted to of course, but they'd be missing out on the big positive point of the idea.

[riccirich]

I think our accounts would soon get linked if this plunge happened on a regular basis and it’s the same accounts every time. Then if a few of the gambles land it would be game over

Doing the bet in the shop would be the way to go for some as I said, or if it had to be online for some people then I'm sure there are ways around it to keep suspicions to a minimum, use a different account each week for example instead of the same one again and again, and a condition of the bet could be the price has to be widely available so that everyone doesn't have to back with the one bookmaker who has the standout price maybe.

[Istabraq]

Not sure the losing accounts paranoia is completely valid.

It is absolutely paranoia, but with good reason I assure you….

[Unexposed]

Looking forward to seeing how the Goffer gets on. Must admit I would have liked this rain to have stayed away a tad