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2023 Browns Advisory Novices Chase (formerly RSA)

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  • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

    Haha, well I hope so.... I am very confident despite the classic 'hedging' that I've done.... but my return on Gerri is already good enough that I don't need to have Spectre proving me wrong...

    Although in my defensive, every time we've had a big clash I think I've been right

    #Ginto vs HollowGames and #MyDrogo a bag of dung spring to mind
    I suspect Spectre isn’t on at 33/1. I can understand opposing him with Sir Gerhard at current odds but The Real Whacker will make it a proper stamina test that I can only see benefiting Gerri!

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    • Originally posted by SeanRock View Post

      I suspect Spectre isn’t on at 33/1. I can understand opposing him with Sir Gerhard at current odds but The Real Whacker will make it a proper stamina test that I can only see benefiting Gerri!
      Yeah I think he will just do enough... it's his attitude I like the most.

      Knowing a horse will find for pressure is a big, big tick for a festival graded race for moi


      TBF I'm sure Spectre has a decent price

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      • Sir gerhard is a brutal price

        His price just shows how little depth there is in the race

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        • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
          Sir gerhard is a brutal price

          His price just shows how little depth there is in the race
          Is it really? A 2x festival winner against 'the real whacker', a veteran thyme hill who won a rubbish Kauto star and was well found out previously, and thunder rock who isnt a g1 horse.

          On the day I can see him being a solid 5/2 2nd fav and that would be priced around right behind Gerri, who looks to have a great chance of winning it bar the ground concern.

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          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

            Yeah I think he will just do enough... it's his attitude I like the most.

            Knowing a horse will find for pressure is a big, big tick for a festival graded race for moi


            TBF I'm sure Spectre has a decent price
            I can’t totally understand the argument based on SG previous festival form but you can’t judge Gerri based on his form up to this season, it’s blatantly obvious Gordon has been playing the long game with him.

            Sir Gerhard bullied horses as a bumper horse he’d remind you of the type of fella that was shaving as a 12 year old schoolboy then he won a poor Ballymore last year running with the choke out all the way, he won’t be able to do that this season.

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            • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

              Yeah I think he will just do enough... it's his attitude I like the most.

              Knowing a horse will find for pressure is a big, big tick for a festival graded race for moi


              TBF I'm sure Spectre has a decent price
              It does depend on which horses they find for pressure against though.
              In this case it's just Ok.

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              • Originally posted by Always a Claimer View Post

                If it goes soft i’m all over Galia Des Liteaux ew. I’m just debating about whether to play now at 14/1 with 3 places or wait until the day? Will there be enough runners for some bookies to go 4 places on the day? And will her price hold at double figures if soft?
                No it won’t…rain forecast = reverse forecast

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                • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

                  No it won’t…rain forecast = reverse forecast
                  If it got really soft, I'd actually fancy Sir Gerhard.

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                  • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                    If it got really soft, I'd actually fancy Sir Gerhard.
                    Now you’re being soft

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                    • Originally posted by SeanRock View Post

                      I can’t totally understand the argument based on SG previous festival form but you can’t judge Gerri based on his form up to this season, it’s blatantly obvious Gordon has been playing the long game with him.

                      Sir Gerhard bullied horses as a bumper horse he’d remind you of the type of fella that was shaving as a 12 year old schoolboy then he won a poor Ballymore last year running with the choke out all the way, he won’t be able to do that this season.
                      I'm not sure if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me after reading that



                      If Sir Gerhard wasn't a dual festival winner, I wouldn't be backing him at all, not even at twice the price. His chase form alone is nowhere near what I'd want to see.
                      The fact he is a dual festival winner, means he commands respect...... but it's also the reason I think Gerri is a nap, if SG is Willie's best chance in this, then Elliott is home and hosed.

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                      • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

                        No it won’t…rain forecast = reverse forecast
                        Anywhere that does that this early? Good shout. Also just checked prices again, Galia Des Liteaux is 28/1 antepost price vs 14/1 NRNB. 28/1 ew now given the forecast and Skelton slanting for Brown’s certainly seems value.

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                        • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                          It does depend on which horses they find for pressure against though.
                          In this case it's just Ok.
                          Spoilt by Willie / Ruby bridle merchants over the years.


                          Finding for pressure is without a doubt in my mind a massive positive.

                          "Always doing enough" I love.... Barters Hill type attitude...

                          Or Bobs Worth.

                          I love it. Love Love Love it!



                          Having to battle even if against lower opposition but finding is a big plus, I'd give Jonbon a tick for it for the first time in his career for example, even though it was against a handicapper...



                          All relative of course, which I assume is what you're saying.... but I still love it.

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                          • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                            If it got really soft, I'd actually fancy Sir Gerhard.
                            How many perceived potential Clonsutton Champion Hurdle candidates would be broadly talented enough to be seen as a crack 2 miler or a dour staying chaser that would appreciate a strong gallop on soft going around the most stamina testing track in the country (bar the new course)

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                            • Originally posted by SeanRock View Post

                              How many perceived potential Clonsutton Champion Hurdle candidates would be broadly talented enough to be seen as a crack 2 miler or a dour staying chaser that would appreciate a strong gallop on soft going around the most stamina testing track in the country (bar the new course)
                              All of them.

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                              • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                                Spoilt by Willie / Ruby bridle merchants over the years.


                                Finding for pressure is without a doubt in my mind a massive positive.

                                "Always doing enough" I love.... Barters Hill type attitude...

                                Or Bobs Worth.

                                I love it. Love Love Love it!



                                Having to battle even if against lower opposition but finding is a big plus, I'd give Jonbon a tick for it for the first time in his career for example, even though it was against a handicapper...



                                All relative of course, which I assume is what you're saying.... but I still love it.
                                He did it in the rossington main too…jockey had to get after him and he definitely responded

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