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2023 Ballymore Novices Hurdle

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Bonjers View Post
    Another boost for Hermes Allen with You Wear It Well gagging up in the Jane Seymour.
    Another? Where was the first?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by charlie View Post

      Another? Where was the first?
      Challow 4th, 5th,6th and pulled up horse all won since.......

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      • #33
        The 4th,5th & 6th home in the Challow have all won nto,also Crambo won nto & Vivki Vale was 2nd nto,Kances City Star & Idalko Bihoue are the only other 2 from the Challow that have ran,both pulled up.
        I'm not sure how great these all are as form boosts as I've not that deeply but at least those behind HA have shown they're able to win races.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by EnvoiAlien View Post
          The 4th,5th & 6th home in the Challow have all won nto,also Crambo won nto & Vivki Vale was 2nd nto,Kances City Star & Idalko Bihoue are the only other 2 from the Challow that have ran,both pulled up.
          I'm not sure how great these all are as form boosts as I've not that deeply but at least those behind HA have shown they're able to win races.
          Yes form of the Challow has worked out ok.
          Still don’t give us much idea how good HA is or can be, as he wins with comfort, but runs like today do his chances no harm.

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          • #35
            Hermes a sea of Blue today. Challow form not gone unnoticed by the looks of it !

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Lobos View Post
              Hermes a sea of Blue today. Challow form not gone unnoticed by the looks of it !
              BMG mk2

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              • #37
                Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                BMG mk2
                Looks less like a future chaser than BMG at same stage to me.
                Hes fav for a reason.
                Wins easily and form holding up well.

                Should add….. he wins his races easily not he’s going to win easily!!
                Going to be a tough race , but he’s done nowt wrong, and one of a few that can win in an open year.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                  Hermes a sea of Blue today. Challow form not gone unnoticed by the looks of it !
                  Challow hurdle form??????????????

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                    Looks less like a future chaser than BMG at same stage to me.
                    Hes fav for a reason.
                    Wins easily and form holding up well.
                    This is a very loose and wild reasoning for him being the winner.

                    IMO, I've previously mentioned this but Harry does a lovely job of making a horse look like he's hard on the bridle, what they find off that is still an unknown. Nothing in that Challow would be sighted in a Ballymore and distances will have been exaggerated by the ground that day at Newbury, it was a bog and it didn't look like many acted on it.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by doctorwu View Post

                      Challow hurdle form??????????????
                      See above......

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                        BMG mk2
                        Hope so, would have a great chance if he is !

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                          This is a very loose and wild reasoning for him being the winner.

                          IMO, I've previously mentioned this but Harry does a lovely job of making a horse look like he's hard on the bridle, what they find off that is still an unknown. Nothing in that Challow would be sighted in a Ballymore and distances will have been exaggerated by the ground that day at Newbury, it was a bog and it didn't look like many acted on it.
                          4 weeks time we'll all know !

                          Let the games begin !!!

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                            This is a very loose and wild reasoning for him being the winner.

                            IMO, I've previously mentioned this but Harry does a lovely job of making a horse look like he's hard on the bridle, what they find off that is still an unknown. Nothing in that Challow would be sighted in a Ballymore and distances will have been exaggerated by the ground that day at Newbury, it was a bog and it didn't look like many acted on it.
                            I never said any reasoning for him being the winner.
                            I do think however given how impressive he’s looked and the horses he’s beaten coming out and winning, that he’s the deserving fav.
                            Its only my opinion though.
                            If people want to crab the Challow that’s their prerogative, and it would have served them well in the past, but it does not mean the same happens this time.
                            Hes been as good as any I’ve seen over the Ballymore type distance, and better than most.
                            Like i said though, it’s an open year with a few worthy candidates.

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                            • #44
                              You'd expect horses deemed considered talented enough by their trainers to run in a grade 1 to be winning in novice hurdles and listed races after wouldn't you?
                              Would be very worried if they weren't

                              The second won that grade 2 nicely today, but like most grade 2 novice races in the UK it was more of a listed race and the elliot horse didn't lift a leg

                              Form certainly hasnt looked bad but not really been franked in the context of a proper grade 1 race like this

                              Hermes allen did look miles better than them though so thats not surprising

                              Bit like luccia in that they've won so easily it'd be harsh to judge them on what the ones in behind do

                              Personally I think he will need soft ground to have a chance, on good ground he will be very vulnerable to the speed horses like impaire et passe and the gaelic lunatic. Bit of soft to remove some of the emphasis away from speed and he could go close.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                                Hermes a sea of Blue today. Challow form not gone unnoticed by the looks of it !
                                No Challow winner has ever won the Ballymore. Hows the weveallbeencaught form looking.............

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