2023 Ballymore Novices Hurdle

[Zachx02]

+rep Run4Home gave very good info whilst ive been a member

[charlie]

Run4Home has been a member a fair while and used to be under a different username.

Whilst I need to discuss with the other mods, I'm 99.9% sure they are nothing to do with a recently banned account.

This is not aimed at you Geegees but as a whole we need to be sure not to alienate those accounts who do bring genuine information to the forum and they are not forced to discuss or divulge where the information has come from or what relationship they have with yards etc...

I think members can build up a level of respect over a period of time and from my own experience with Run4Home I think they are genuine, though I can't speak for everyone.

This is key. The vast majority of attention seekers, disgruntled ex users, children, degenerates etc, pop up with 'private information' that holds zero substance in March and it's not a coincidence. Regular forum use and contributions are essential for lending credibility to 'private information'.

I appreciate there is a balance but IMO mods should be super tough on this. This place is a treasure trove of information and if you're a relatively unknown and/or new user, you're most likely using the forum nearer cheltenham and not throughout the rest of the year. Thats fine, but, contributions should come with scrutiny, especially when an individual with that type of profile offers up 'inside information'.

As far as I'm concerned they should absolutely have to verify/justify where that information came from. This doesn't need to be public, nor does it need to be difficult. If someone makes a claim they should be able to drop a mod a WhatsApp proving how they know what they know, and thats that. If someone can't do this then the information is likely rubbish and if they're super sensitive and/or tricky then they probably shouldn't be posting the information on an Internet forum anyway.

[charlie]

Going back to topic, loving the vibes about IEP. I don't sense PN is overly bullish which might be lessons from the past, and GW being ridden by PM (who I have covered anyway) is clearly second string. I'm not too worried about Barry's horse either.

[Irish Rugby]

Yes, and while nothing is certain, the view on the forum a couple of months back was that FV and IEP were Willie's top novice hurdlers this year. The markets beginning to come to that conclusion as well, although none of us would be that surprised if IET and GW/CK bettered them on the day. A reflection of Willie's strength in depth.

[Faugheen_Machine]

I can vouch for Run4Home and know the information to be correct.

He's one of the good guys!

[Quevega]

I think it might have helped had runforhome answered my very simple question,

I'd genuinely forgotten his connection, and now thanks to Craigy, several messages later, someone has reminded me why he has this info

FFS why all the mysticism ?
No wonder people get paranoid.

[Benjy23]

Going back to topic, loving the vibes about IEP. I don't sense PN is overly bullish which might be lessons from the past, and GW being ridden by PM (who I have covered anyway) is clearly second string. I'm not too worried about Barry's horse either.

Second or third? He's clear second in the market but I'd have him third on jockey bookings!

[Carnage at Taunton]

Yep the horse that needs the best jockey in the race will have the worst jockey in the race …that’s it in a nutshell imo

Yep.
Not sure how many will line up, but I do know there will be a heck of a lot of better jockeys watching the race!!

[Bunkoffearly]

To be fair and learnt this the hard way - Patrick is a much better jockey than people think judging him mainly on bumper rides his father likes to win more than anyone I know and would not put his son up if he thought it was not in best interest of horse

when bunkoffearly went to deloittes we were pleased that Paul was riding and not Patrick. Learned a lesson that day when baccardys swooped late under you guessed it to beat our horse - afterwards never saw it as a negative if Patrick was riding

[Carnage at Taunton]

Well he’s an amateur who will be riding a tricky horse, whilst a shed load of pros will be watching.
Ive not backed GW on the strength of for me being too short for his running style on this course.
But I do feel for those that have backed him.
Trainer uses plenty of pros having so many horses, so why not use one on this occasion, and on a tricky ride to boot?
Dont make sense to me anyway.

[Bunkoffearly]

The trickier the horse are the ones Patrick ends up on usually baccardys was not an easy ride

dont remember this talk when riding Sharjah

I am bias though by the ride he gave aramon to win the Galway hurdle an absolute peach just shame during Covid and couldn’t be there

[Carnage at Taunton]

The trickier the horse are the ones Patrick ends up on usually baccardys was not an easy ride

dont remember this talk when riding Sharjah

I am bias though by the ride he gave aramon to win the Galway hurdle an absolute peach just shame during Covid and couldn’t be there

I always regarded Sharjah as a horse you could just sit on out the back and then finish strongly.
Dont recall him being tricky.
Anyway you are clearly closer to all this than me .
Lets see what happens.

[Run4Home]

With outlandish comments and no substance, does this not scream of someone that has recently been banned?

Hopefully I am wrong but not a profile I recognise

Yes mate, member for 3 years with nearly 1.5k posts absolutely screams it

Told you who Patrick himself said was planned to ride and his concern for GW from his own mouth yesterday- very outlandish!

Anyway 20 comments later why it’s not worth the bother of posting much here anymore.

[Carnage at Taunton]

Yes mate, member for 3 years with nearly 1.5k posts absolutely screams it

Told you who Patrick himself said was planned to ride and his concern for GW from his own mouth yesterday- very outlandish!

Anyway 20 comments later why it’s not worth the bother of posting much here anymore.

Keep it going and ignore.
There will be plenty on here appreciating your contributions, probably virtually all of us.
You clearly know your stuff.

[Irish Rugby]

Keep it going and ignore.
There will be plenty on here appreciating your contributions, probably virtually all of us.
You clearly know your stuff.

And so say all of us. Well put, Carnage.