2023 Arkle Novices Chase

[Bollinger]

Yeah, "nearly always" is probably about 40-50% of the time.

The point generally being, there isn’t a race in the festival that gets close to providing odds on shots in small fields like an Arkle does.

[Lobos]

The point generally being, there isn’t a race in the festival that gets close to providing odds on shots in small fields like an Arkle does.

Agree. Not been as open a race in many years...........


Apart from last year

[Quevega]

The point generally being, there isn’t a race in the festival that gets close to providing odds on shots in small fields like an Arkle does.

Who's your pick for next years arkle ?

[Bollinger]

I need to see horses released onto markets. Markets first, selections come along way 2nd.

As I’ve mentioned in the last month on a post here, in the last 4-5 years, Skybet have had in their ‘National Hunt’ requestabets horses available 18 months in advance selection. This year? Not a single horse, and it’s incredibly frustrating to hinder how I invest. Not a single horse is available.

I look at markets, then I look at horses. Then invest if I see exceptional value.

The markets ain’t there. And it’s f****** me right off.

[Outlaw]

I need to see horses released onto markets. Markets first, selections come along way 2nd.

As I’ve mentioned in the last month on a post here, in the last 4-5 years, Skybet have had in their ‘National Hunt’ requestabets horses available 18 months in advance selection. This year? Not a single horse, and it’s incredibly frustrating to hinder how I invest. Not a single horse is available.

I look at markets, then I look at horses. Then invest if I see exceptional value.

The markets ain’t there. And it’s f****** me right off.

That's a bit backwards no? You'd have certain horses in mind then see the markets to deem a bet or not on price surely . Doing it the other way around seems odd as your essentially saying you have no idea until a bookie prices it up irrelevant of price then.

[Istabraq]

I need to see horses released onto markets. Markets first, selections come along way 2nd.

Have to say this is the complete opposite of how I’ve been betting for about 20 years.
Prices can sway judgement, I find it far better to create my own markets/prices based on research then compare against actual prices.
Each to their own I guess…

[Big Bucks]

Do we think there will be more runners than "usual" this year, or cut up? Reason I ask anyone any view on Final Orders? 20/1, what price would he be on the day?

[Lobos]

Dysart all the rage today. Pricewise???

[Craigy14]

Dysart all the rage today. Pricewise???

Think Paul Kealy and Kevin Blake have mentioned him recently.

[ComplyOrDie]

Dysart all the rage today. Pricewise???

I imagine he's seen as an E/W play to nothing, especially with 1f less to see out in the Arkle.

[FinalFurlong91]

Dysart all the rage today. Pricewise???

People realising there's probably going to be less than 8 runners

[Lobos]

I imagine he's seen as an E/W play to nothing, especially with 1f less to see out in the Arkle.

Yep, can see that now and agree with FF that there will be less than 8 so makes complete sense. There is some nice EW value about ATM in the Novice chases.

[Always a Claimer]

People realising there's probably going to be less than 8 runners

Who do we think they are? I have 9 in my head but maybe I’m being overly optimistic with some

[ComplyOrDie]

Who do we think they are? I have 9 in my head but maybe I’m being overly optimistic with some

I have 4, possibly 5.

Think Willie will only send two to the race, El Fab & DD. Obviously Jonbon.

Then a couple of horses that may be going to try and grab place money, potentially Haddex & Final Orders, although Haddex could also end up in the Grand Annual as he's only rated 146.

[Quevega]

I have 4, possibly 5.

Think Willie will only send two to the race, El Fab & DD. Obviously Jonbon.

Then a couple of horses that may be going to try and grab place money, potentially Haddex & Final Orders, although Haddex could also end up in the Grand Annual as he's only rated 146.

I think they might run Haddex, one because of Jonbon's run the other day, and secondly because of EDG.