2024 Cheltenham - the odds on offer.

[Lobos]

I can see an angle where if the Gold Cup 2025 is their aim they may consider the Turners to be fair. I'd have it as the least likely of the four races (Arkle, CC and CH) I could realistically see him running in in 2024 though.

If it were Willie maybe but Nicky??? Not for me at all.

[Benjy23]

If it were Willie maybe but Nicky??? Not for me at all.

I'm not sure there's much precedent of Henderson's Champion Hurdle winners route to a Gold Cup? Was just a guess at a logical route, gradual step up in trip. Maybe me and Willie think more alike

[Lobos]

I'm not sure there's much precedent of Henderson's Champion Hurdle winners route to a Gold Cup? Was just a guess at a logical route, gradual step up in trip. Maybe me and Willie think more alike

Was thinking more of Nicky's love and ability to train winners in the Arkle and Champion Chase against the very few runners/winners he's had in the Turners. He'll stick to what he knows best.

[Ice]

I also think he'll stick to two miles but unfortunately that still leaves me with ch, cc and arkle to choose between !

[jack1092]

A TWAR price for him would be interesting while he’s still under the radar

he's short with skybet 8/1

[Lobos]

he's short with skybet 8/1

Found a Fifty ?

I'd say if you like him then 8's is fair about him TWAR. Don't think Hills will be much bigger if at all. Could go for multiple races. That's the sort of TWAR price I'd take if I fancied one.

[Winging The Last]

My thoughts on Constitution Hill if he goes novice chasing:

Firstly - The Arkle is so much more prestigious than the Turners, to me if he goes novice chasing he will go the Arkle.

Secondly - Nicky also prefers the Arkle over the Turners, he has only one the Turners once and that was with Chantry House which was the same year Shishkin won the Arkle.

Thirdly - The Arkle is on the Tuesday which is the same day that CH has won the Supreme and Champion Hurdle (on the same course) which would be a much swifter transition.

Fourthly - I think if they are looking to get the most out of the horse (number of different wins at Cheltenham) and go for the Champion Chase then Gold Cup it would make much more sense to go Arkle > CC > GC, than Turner > CC (down in trip) > GC. I very much doubt that the Ryanair will ever be in consideration for a horse like CHill so he will only go the CC or GC in open chase company


Arkle - 7
Champion Chase - 8
Gold Cup - 9
Gold Cup - 10
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[HesTheOne]

The debate will rage on and on.. he really could do with his own thread

[JackieMoon33]

The debate will rage on and on.. he really could do with his own thread

Yeah. We’ve not even got to Aintree yet and it’s giving me a headache, especially as I won’t be backing him for anything, just enjoying the ride of how good he could be.

[Lobos]

Yeah. We’ve not even got to Aintree yet and it’s giving me a headache, especially as I won’t be backing him for anything, just enjoying the ride of how good he could be.

If you aren't backing him for anything does that mean you aren't backing anything against him in several races either JM ?

[JackieMoon33]

If you aren't backing him for anything does that mean you aren't backing anything against him in several races either JM ?

I’ll throw my usual three darts at the novice races in each discipline where I don’t feel a short priced fav is cut and dried. I won’t back in the Arkle as that’s where I think he’ll go right now. It’s also an easy race for me skip, like I do most years, as I rarely have a horse I fancy at a working man’s price in that market.

[Sprinter Sacre]

As a part-owner of The Carpenter, I'm now very interested in a Brown Advisory 2024 price.

[Kevloaf]

As a part-owner of The Carpenter, I'm now very interested in a Brown Advisory 2024 price.

We should probably stay Close to You?

Fingers crossed he's a Superstar and you're on Top of the World

[JackieMoon33]

We should probably stay Close to You?

Fingers crossed he's a Superstar and you're on Top of the World

Dadtastic Kev - get your coat.

[Kevloaf]

Dadtastic Kev - get your coat.

You think that was bad..... have a look at my weekly round up from today



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