2024 Cheltenham - the odds on offer.

[Eggs]

I would be interested in prices last March for the first three home in the Arkle and BANC .
I know Jonbon was 10…. anyone know the rest?

…..no idea but I looked back at the equivalent thread this time last year. A number of posters highlighting James’ Gate @ 20-1 after he came third in the CB. This years 3rd, Captain Teague is currently 33-1 for Ballymore.

C Hill was 5-1 Arkle, Delta 5-1 XC.

[Ice]

….trying to recall when they opened their a/r market last year but think it was a while after Sky.

I've just looked at my bets from last year and my first twar bet with hills was placed on March 24th.

[Kautostar]

But you can put the Sky ones in multiples

Enjoy it while it lasts I imagine 90% of this forum will be restricted by sky. I for one can no longer use them

[Kautostar]

I don't mind IAM for the NHC, felt like he's been schooling in public most of the season anyway, similar path to GDM, JP purchase has to be a positive. Not many other obvious candidates out there as there has been the last couple of seasons. Wouldn't be rushing in at 12s mind.

I think there’s loads of possible candidates this time. I wouldn’t just pigeonhole the race for second season chasers, yes the experience helps but the recency bias could start to get overplayed here.

[Atlantic Viking]

I think there’s loads of possible candidates this time. I wouldn’t just pigeonhole the race for second season chasers, yes the experience helps but the recency bias could start to get overplayed here.

I meant obvious candidates, as was the case with RWF and GDM, there are of course a ton of possibles and one of those didn't win whilst the other was incredibly fortunate! I had Embassy Gardens in mind as another possible but his complete blowout in the RSA wasn't what I had in mind, even if he was strangely far from alone on that.

[Dandrew99]

I would be interested in prices last March for the first three home in the Arkle and BANC .
I know Jonbon was 10…. anyone know the rest?

El Fabiolo - 33/1
Jonbon - 10/1
Saint Roi - 28/1 (got pushed out to 33/1 at a stage)

The Real Whacker - 50/1
Gerri Colombe - 33/1
Bronn - 40/1 (got pushed to 66/1 at a stage)

[Exar Essay]

I meant obvious candidates, as was the case with RWF and GDM, there are of course a ton of possibles and one of those didn't win whilst the other was incredibly fortunate! I had Embassy Gardens in mind as another possible but his complete blowout in the RSA wasn't what I had in mind, even if he was strangely far from alone on that.

I've put a line through him for the moment. His success came from a front running performance against nothing. Trainer's comments after the race are that he ran too free in the Bartlett. Not what I'd be looking for in a NHC horse. Of the ones who ran poorly, I'd give another chance to Favori De Champdou who loos like even the Bartlett might've happened too quick for him. Whilst not a second season chaser, he would be 9 next year and has experience on his side. Of the others, I think most will be aimed over the 3mile trip. Affordale Fury would be interesting and might be campaigned to get further.

[Eggs]

….Constitution Hill 4/6 Hills to win any novice Chase. That offer was 6-1 not long ago.

PP offer 33-1 he wins next seasons CC followed by GC a year later.

[Exar Essay]

….Constitution Hill 4/6 Hills to win any novice Chase. That offer was 6-1 not long ago.

PP offer 33-1 he wins next seasons CC followed by GC a year later.

Those odds are silly. But we had plenty of time to take the 6/1. We know very little else since that 6/1 was put up other than him winning the Churdle at 1/3. The owner and trainer gave as much clue pre Chelts as they have since.

[Benjy23]

The 4/6 is just stupid because you could back the individual races for a much higher return. And I'm not sure you'd bother including the NH Chase either

[JackieMoon33]

The 4/6 is just stupid because you could back the individual races for a much higher return. And I'm not sure you'd bother including the NH Chase either

I’d rule out the BANC personally too.

[Benjy23]

I’d rule out the BANC personally too.

Aye, so would I. Can't see anyway he'd end up there. But you can include and still get a much bigger price than 4/6 so I thought I'd go with it.

[ComplyOrDie]

IF Constitution Hill does end up over fences only two races interest me, the Arkle & the Champion Chase. I see no reason why he needs to be stepped up in trip, he's full of speed, and whilst he will stay further, I have no doubt about that, I just don't think it needs to be in his first season over fences.

The only way they step him up, IMO, is if his jumping is not slick, but then again he could also revert back to hurdles off the back of this too.

[Lobos]

IMO he's going chasing and the only Novice Chase he'd run in is The Arkle so ignoring the 'Any Novice Race' odds was easy. It'll be Arkle or Champion Chase and I've bet him that way and taken bigger odds on State Man in the Champion Hurdle as a result. This is going to run and run and run and I took the view that unless I made a choice now then I'd not have a bet in the Champion Hurdle or the Champion Chase or the Arkle until at least after the Game Spirit chase as I don't believe connections will make a decision until that time unless of course he jumps like a snooker table at Doncaster/Kempton/Sandown. A risk I know but one worth taking at current odds in my view as he'll be long odds on whatever chase he turns up in and the Champion Hurdle odds for others will evaporate. I for one absolutely love situations like this where you have to look into that crystal ball and go with your gut. Bring it on.

[Benjy23]

I can see an angle where if the Gold Cup 2025 is their aim they may consider the Turners to be fair. I'd have it as the least likely of the four races (Arkle, CC and CH) I could realistically see him running in in 2024 though.