2024 Cheltenham - the odds on offer.

[ComplyOrDie]

Quite a good plan. How is he in terms of scope, how big is he? Isn't Jonbon bigger?

Jonbon is or was much the bigger of the pair pre- Supreme.

[HoldenTheReins]

Jonbon is or was much the bigger of the pair pre- Supreme.

Yeah I just couldn't remember which way around it was. Not sure on the size of CH and whether he might struggle with fences.

[Carnage at Taunton]

Yeah I just couldn't remember which way around it was. Not sure on the size of CH and whether he might struggle with fences.

Oh yes, Jonbon bigger horse for sure.
Was quite surprised when I saw them standing together.

[Carnage at Taunton]

Buckley wants him to win the Gold Cup.

He might well do , but loads can and will happen over the coming months and year or so.
Would not be a shock if he won the CH and stayed hurdling.
And a lot may depend on how Jonbon is progressing with his chasing.
And definitely will depend on how he takes to the fences, if they choose to try that after this season.

[Quevega]

Assuming he takes to fences

If he was mine it'd be

2 novice chases
game spirit (test him in open company)
Champion chase
Aintree over 2m4f (if fit and well after cheltenham)

Prep race
King George
Gold Cup

Could be the horse of a lifetime, should be campaigned that way

They should do exactly this.
I'd even go for the tingle creek if he gets a run in before then. Depending on opposition of course.

[Carnage at Taunton]

Assuming he takes to fences

If he was mine it'd be

2 novice chases
game spirit (test him in open company)
Champion chase
Aintree over 2m4f (if fit and well after cheltenham)

Prep race
King George
Gold Cup

Could be the horse of a lifetime, should be campaigned that way

Look at the way Sprinter was campaigned over fences.
I reckon you will then see the likely route CH would take.
In his novice season I should add.

[Exar Essay]

Oh yes, Jonbon bigger horse for sure.
Was quite surprised when I saw them standing together.

CH is much bigger this year. Maybe not as big as Jonbon still, but not the slight thing he was last year. Nicky said he looked every inch a chaser after summer.

[Sprinter Sacre]

Luccia to win MNH and any race '24 - 12/1
Blazing Khal Brown Advisory - 16/1

[Kevloaf]

Luccia to win MNH and any race '24 - 12/1
Blazing Khal Brown Advisory - 16/1

So gross

[Eggs]

…..Monty’s Star 25-1 BANC PP.

[darlojim]

…..Monty’s Star 25-1 BANC PP.

I know your only highlighting these as they pop up as we've obviously had interest in the horse today, but a whole load of people jumping on these prices is not going to help antepost in the longterm :/

No doubt PP will shorten into 20s/16s before too long and then when the time comes, no doubt other bookies will just follow up at the same price as PP. Gone are the days where you could get 33s for any type of decent profile runner pre debut, and 16s/20s available post impressive debut

Maybe I'm just sad that value is slowly drifting away..

[Eggs]

I know your only highlighting these as they pop up as we've obviously had interest in the horse today, but a whole load of people jumping on these prices is not going to help antepost in the longterm :/

No doubt PP will shorten into 20s/16s before too long and then when the time comes, no doubt other bookies will just follow up at the same price as PP. Gone are the days where you could get 33s for any type of decent profile runner pre debut, and 16s/20s available post impressive debut

Maybe I'm just sad that value is slowly drifting away..

….yep, I just post what I see, especially when so many highlight him as a future staying chaser. It’s an emotive subject, and you’re not alone in your views.

Saying that, if next years Markets only form after this years festival I wonder what BANC price Monty’s would be if he wins the AB. What price was M Indo for RSA after he won the AB in 2019? Indo was 3-1 when finishing 2nd in RSA.

I guess what I’m asking, will there be a big difference in RSA prices on offer for AB winners this year than 4 years ago? I suppose there’ll always be value behind the market leaders if those at the top are too short. Only difference now is punters have an opportunity to back ahead of the festival with risk factored into the price.

Is the only change the fact punters have offers 14 months out?

i don’t know the answers, many will express a view.

[Always a Claimer]

Personal view, as someone who is too busy to keep track of all 2023 markets, let alone 2024, but someone who is very keen to get some money down early where it makes sense, these updates from Eggs are VERY helpful. I can think of a few early prices I have already got, and likewise I can think of a few good win 2022 in X and 2023 in Y that are rolling into this festival because of the hard work of others. I guess the only thing you could consider to limit the “footfall” is to move to members area.

but long and short - thank you.

[Magpie]

Eggs is immensely helpful with his updates, I have not got the time to find these nuggets, so thanks for all the help

[darlojim]

….yep, I just post what I see, especially when so many highlight him as a future staying chaser. It’s an emotive subject, and you’re not alone in your views.

Saying that, if next years Markets only form after this years festival I wonder what BANC price Monty’s would be if he wins the AB. What price was M Indo for RSA after he won the AB in 2019? Indo was 3-1 when finishing 2nd in RSA.

I guess what I’m asking, will there be a big difference in RSA prices on offer for AB winners this year than 4 years ago? I suppose there’ll always be value behind the market leaders if those at the top are too short. Only difference now is punters have an opportunity to back ahead of the festival with risk factored into the price.

i don’t know the answers, many will express a view.

Yeh I'm not criticising you doing it mate, you highlighted the 125/1 I got on today, so they are very helpful and I suppose yeah if he were to win the Bartlett he would be short enough anyway :/

FWIW, do these PP 2024 offer cashout or not? Haven't placed any as of yet (i dont think) or was PP NRNB introduced before these came live so cashout wouldnt show anyway?