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2023 Mares Chase

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  • The engine is clearly still there for TMSG but she isn’t winning a decent race over fences with jumping like that… wonder if they will consider reverting back to the Mares’ Hurdle after that.

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    • Wouldn’t be rushing to back either of them after that, looked proper bollox’d coming to the last, sort of race that could leave a mark on them.

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      • Can write them both off for a chase. TMSG best chance will be back over hurdles.

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        • Would not have a penny on either with that jumping display.

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          • Originally posted by NeptuneByANose View Post
            The engine is clearly still there for TMSG but she isn’t winning a decent race over fences with jumping like that… wonder if they will consider reverting back to the Mares’ Hurdle after that.
            Surely it's their only option if they want to go to Cheltenham with any sort of chance.

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            • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
              For different reasons, the 2 mares just then are both shit.
              Ones not that good and one can't jump.
              perfect analysis. Get her back over Hurdles Henry.....she bloody hates fences !!!

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              • Never been less happy for a win! TMSG cant jump. Hurdle chat was premature pre today but it certainly isn't now. Maybe she was just a good novice and not as good as once first thought.

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                • TMSG is one of the worst jumpers of a fence I've seen. And still beat Instit. Neither will be winning this at Cheltenham.

                  To me TMSG has no chance in the Mares Hurdle either if re-routed. Just nowhere near as good as the top Mares in that race

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                  • Those two had a who can jump the worst competition

                    Allegorie de vasy would've won that by a furlong

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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                      perfect analysis. Get her back over Hurdles Henry.....she bloody hates fences !!!
                      Broke the novice spell now though, so makes it a harder choice.
                      I expect they'll enter her, and see how the race shapes up.
                      But it looks a hot mares this year, but she clearly has an engine.

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                      • Originally posted by Winging The Last View Post
                        TMSG is one of the worst jumpers of a fence I've seen. And still beat Instit. Neither will be winning this at Cheltenham.

                        To me TMSG has no chance in the Mares Hurdle either if re-routed. Just nowhere near as good as the top Mares in that race
                        Agree first statement.

                        Disagree second statement. She was travelling just as well as Marie's Rock when brought down last year.

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                        • Originally posted by Winging The Last View Post
                          TMSG is one of the worst jumpers of a fence I've seen. And still beat Instit. Neither will be winning this at Cheltenham.

                          To me TMSG has no chance in the Mares Hurdle either if re-routed. Just nowhere near as good as the top Mares in that race
                          She seems to lack the bravery for fences, was jumping fine but once she made one mistake her jumping fell to pieces

                          They might try her once more over fences after plenty more schooling then give up if she doesn't improve


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                          • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                            Broke the novice spell now though, so makes it a harder choice.
                            I expect they'll enter her, and see how the race shapes up.
                            But it looks a hot mares this year, but she clearly has an engine.
                            Henry doesn't have anything else for the Mares Hurdle which is interesting. She's not a chaser at all.....Henry and everyone else can see that. Only one option imo.

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                            • Might go in again at 16/1 NRNB - surely TMSG runs again and either does better or they don't bother?

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                              • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                                She seems to lack the bravery for fences, was jumping fine but once she made one mistake her jumping fell to pieces

                                They might try her once more over fences after plenty more schooling then give up if she doesn't improve

                                Jockey don't seem as brave this season either.

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