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2023 Mares Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by somer1 View Post
    Forget Debbie does Dallas. Thinks this is a case of Brandy love does Fat Jockey
    Is she a gonner??

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    • Originally posted by Guinness Village View Post
      We must have someone on this forum who has some info on brandy loves well-being. Any ideas?
      Came back into full training mid-Dec and is being lightly campaigned (probably in part due to right handed tracks being an obvious no-go area!) is all i've heard.

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      • Originally posted by Atlantic Viking View Post

        Came back into full training mid-Dec and is being lightly campaigned (probably in part due to right handed tracks being an obvious no-go area!) is all i've heard.
        Wasn't that Chinese whispers Twitter though ?

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        • Brandy Love

          She deliberately came back in to Willies yard late, didn’t she.

          It sounded like a plan, to come back late.

          Given her propensity for Left Handed tracks, I saw that from the first mention of it, that it was a plan to run once (Left Handed) before the Mares Hurdle, then go on to Punchestown.

          I don’t have a worry about that plan (think how often Willie managed to get Quevega there without a run)

          Love Envoi and Marie’s Rock have set the standard over the Mares Hurdle trip this season, and it’s looked likely that Epatante won’t be winning at Cheltenham unless she tries the Mares Hurdle too.

          So I’m really hoping the big 4 line up in that race, and that Brandy Love finds a decent race for her seasonal debut, where she isn’t penalised too much for her Grade 1 win last April.
          Maybe even find a race vs the boys if the race conditions give her a better chance.
          "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
            Honeysuckle
            Peter Molony has just confirmed Champion Hurdle or retire for her on RTV

            That's that!
            Lostinleith just read your comment in Mares Chase. Just encase you missed this.

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            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

              Wasn't that Chinese whispers Twitter though ?
              Mostly yeah but Dave Jennings said on Dec 6th she was back. Don't think we were ever likely to see too much of her so fingers crossed.

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              • Do you not think dramatically veering off to the left will hamper her even on a left handed course? It's not as if she just hangs left a little or jumps left a little she basically wants to run off into the next field. If she still has that trait come Cheltenham then she'll not be winning anything.

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                • Not to be disheartening backers especially as plenty on at prices as is the point of this forum but even with the Honey news the current price on Love Envoi is a bit over the top surely from the bookies. I've read various bits and pieces on here and social media and yday effort whilst doing it well was nothing to shout about, the RP has it within 8lbs of Marie's Rock last week, I wouldn't have it within 18lbs personally.

                  Seen quite a few hammering the Tolworth for various reasons, You couldn't be giving the winner much more than 140 at a push and I'm reading how much better/quicker Love Envoi was?? She's 2.5L quicker from 2 out after being 30+L slower than the Tolworth to that point, even the hcap at the arse end of the day has bettered all relevant splits(Circuits, 2 out etc) on shoddy ground. Those in behind her yday have seemingly run to a piss poor standard and her being trimmed to as low as Marie's Rock was after her win last week seems over the top for all she hasn't done anything wrong. If it is day 2 level of shitte weather from last year on the Tuesday she'll be game and be interesting, but anything outside of that scenario I Can't imagine any punter would back her over MR at inevitably very similar prices.

                  Thoughts/shots welcome.

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                  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                    Do you not think dramatically veering off to the left will hamper her even on a left handed course? It's not as if she just hangs left a little or jumps left a little she basically wants to run off into the next field. If she still has that trait come Cheltenham then she'll not be winning anything.
                    No idea. Don't worry chief, I like and backed Love Envoi too! (just nowhere near as heavily as the pornhubster).

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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                      Do you not think dramatically veering off to the left will hamper her even on a left handed course? It's not as if she just hangs left a little or jumps left a little she basically wants to run off into the next field. If she still has that trait come Cheltenham then she'll not be winning anything.
                      Take a look at her at Naas last season mate, she was spot on.

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                      • It’s always good to have strong well thought out views on those you’ve backed, and not backed, and update them after each piece of new information.

                        Sounds like you’ve got your position sorted on Love Envoi after her run yesterday.

                        It doesn’t really matter who agrees or not, as long as you’ve done your own Calcs.

                        There’s only one winner, it could well be Marie’s Rock again, but it does look a very decent pack at the top of the market, and none of their connections should be put off from entering, declaring and running, by what the others have achieved.

                        "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                        • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                          Take a look at her at Naas last season mate, she was spot on.
                          I'll take a look in a bit.

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                          • Originally posted by Atlantic Viking View Post

                            No idea. Don't worry chief, I like and backed Love Envoi too! (just nowhere near as heavily as the pornhubster).
                            Likewise me with Brandy.

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                            • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                              Take a look at her at Naas last season mate, she was spot on.
                              Just have. She was very well behaved wasn't she and did it well. Might have a top up on her.

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                              • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                                Just have. She was very well behaved wasn't she and did it well. Might have a top up on her.
                                Yepp looked like the opposite of herself really going LH. Just goes to show how much difference going one way or the other can make.

                                She hacks up! IMO

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