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2023 Bumper

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  • Originally posted by Imperial Commander View Post
    I wonder if JP and the boys will agree when they sit down and think about it.
    Potentially will, after splashing out to get their silks on one already single figures?

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    • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

      Potentially will, after splashing out to get their silks on one already single figures?
      It seems like the BEX agrees with that!

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      • Originally posted by jrjr View Post

        His phrasing ‘later in the season’ would make me think not Cheltenham. If he meant Cheltenham why wouldn’t he reference it, like he did for Jandidil in the next snippet. Find out Tuesday I guess!
        Backed up by Casey at the preview evening apparently. According to Gaulstats transcript, Ballyburn is a non-runner.

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        • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post

          Backed up by Casey at the preview evening apparently. According to Gaulstats transcript, Ballyburn is a non-runner.
          I expect they've run out of Jockeys! I'm serious too.

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          • So Willie rates today's runner Ile Atlantique one of his best Bumper horses. What does that say about the rest of his? Average at best? Todays run will be interesting after that comment.

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            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

              I expect they've run out of Jockeys! I'm serious too.
              Western Diego is the one he chose of the lot. Mentioned that Chapeau has plenty of ability, Its for Me runs and Fact to file is a 'half fit hunter' and was impressed with his DRF run
              Last edited by Winging The Last; 26 February 2023, 01:52 PM.

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              • Originally posted by Winging The Last View Post

                Western Diego is the one he chose of the lost. Mentioned that Chapeau has plenty of ability, Its for Me runs and Fact to file is a 'half fit hunter' and was impressed with his DRF run
                Chapeau comes into the race as a 'dark horse' and romps home after being well talked up early in the season!

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                • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                  So Willie rates today's runner Ile Atlantique one of his best Bumper horses. What does that say about the rest of his? Average at best? Todays run will be interesting after that comment.
                  Well, that's that then......we can put a line through all of Willies Bumpers this year. Makes it a bit easier. Where shall we start??......

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                  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                    Well, that's that then......we can put a line through all of Willies Bumpers this year. Makes it a bit easier. Where shall we start??......
                    Don't worry, I'm sure they'll have Better Days Ahead

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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                      Well, that's that then......we can put a line through all of Willies Bumpers this year. Makes it a bit easier. Where shall we start??......
                      Tbf Patrick should have won on him today … could easily see he was the best horse in the race, Patrick was over confident and then got caught out

                      I agree the performance wasn’t as good given the odds but I equally don’t think we will see the best of this horse until it steps up in trip

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                      • Originally posted by Geegees View Post

                        Tbf Patrick should have won on him today … could easily see he was the best horse in the race, Patrick was over confident and then got caught out

                        I agree the performance wasn’t as good given the odds but I equally don’t think we will see the best of this horse until it steps up in trip
                        Albert Bartlett shortlist for next year?

                        Very lazy on my part as the owner had Penhill, who had a completely different profile



                        Then again, I don't really like horses who haven't shown they 'find' when asked, so travelling as well as he did but not getting the job done is a bit of a red flag for me.

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                        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                          Albert Bartlett shortlist for next year?

                          Very lazy on my part as the owner had Penhill, who had a completely different profile



                          Then again, I don't really like horses who haven't shown they 'find' when asked, so travelling as well as he did but not getting the job done is a bit of a red flag for me.
                          That would be my pick based on what we have seen.

                          from my view I don’t think it was that he didn’t find much … I just felt by the time Patrick started to react then there wasn’t much of a run in left to show whether he does or not

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                          • Originally posted by Geegees View Post

                            That would be my pick based on what we have seen.

                            from my view I don’t think it was that he didn’t find much … I just felt by the time Patrick started to react then there wasn’t much of a run in left to show whether he does or not
                            YEah fair enough, I'd have to watch it back (and would) before making my mind up.

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                            • I won't be backing him ante post, and the stage of the season where over-thinking must be rife, but my interest has been piqued reading Paul Nicholls say they'll run Captain Teague in the Bumper.

                              He is quite a nice horse, and he is going to have an entry in the Champion Bumper. We don’t have many run in the bumper and the last one I think was Al Ferof who finished second to Cue Card. He is a nice horse by Doyen, and he’s had two runs and won a point-to-point in Ireland last year very impressively and we took him to Plumpton before Christmas for a National Hunt Flat race, and he hosed in. I’m not going to say he is going to win the Champion Bumper or anything like that, but we are running out of options where to run him before he goes hurdling next year. The ground is going to be safe that early part of the week and will probably be good to soft so we will let him take his chance in the bumper. If he finished fifth or sixth, I would be delighted with him, and he will be a lovely horse to go novice hurdling with next season. He will be one of our better horses next year.
                              Now that's quite clearly not as bullish as you can get from Nicholls, and it's probably true and honest, but it just seems strange when the combination of Nicholls and owner (de la Hey) have often skipped Cheltenham completely... with no runner since Al Ferof for the trainer, it just has to be noted IMO.

                              No real reason to play it down, but chance this horse is a wild old price on the day with extra places and things.

                              The 2nd from his win hasn't run, but the 3rd and 4th have both been out and won on next start.


                              Just to confirm, wouldn't back at the current 25/1, I am pretty sure he'll be that on the day or bigger.

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                              • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                                I won't be backing him ante post, and the stage of the season where over-thinking must be rife, but my interest has been piqued reading Paul Nicholls say they'll run Captain Teague in the Bumper.



                                Now that's quite clearly not as bullish as you can get from Nicholls, and it's probably true and honest, but it just seems strange when the combination of Nicholls and owner (de la Hey) have often skipped Cheltenham completely... with no runner since Al Ferof for the trainer, it just has to be noted IMO.

                                No real reason to play it down, but chance this horse is a wild old price on the day with extra places and things.

                                The 2nd from his win hasn't run, but the 3rd and 4th have both been out and won on next start.


                                Just to confirm, wouldn't back at the current 25/1, I am pretty sure he'll be that on the day or bigger.
                                Tom malone the bloodstock guy who is well in with Nicholls (think he does the buying for a lot of his horses) was on the betfair podcast either last week or the week before,
                                he was very positive on the chances of captain Teague and said something along the lines of he’s had a massive each way bet on the horse and it’ll run.

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