2023 Bumper

[Dandrew99]

BDA didn't come off the bridle though. Codd could have extended him properly but didn't.

Patrick was allowed a free one at the front and the pace throughout was very slow. Better Days Ahead lost his first bumper off a very slow pace so it's not like this has helped Better Days Ahead.

Once the others actually started to race, CDS went from 1st to 4th very quickly and was outpaced. Once in 4th he hangs to the left badly but would that have happened if he had the speed to go with them initially?

He does eventually pick up and makes some ground up but the race is already over and Codd hasn't had to get serious on BDA.

10 lengths beating is just fantasy tbh.

I've not backed either horse and don't think either will win at Cheltenham. CDS has been talked up so he must be impressing them at home on the all weather but that bumper debut was just poor.

If they both go to Cheltenham and there is a match bet between them both available, I'd be interested in BDA.

Eased down maybe, but he definitely came off the bridle.

Do you not think him going 1st to 4th was to do with him being awkward and hanging to the left? Hard to tell exactly from the angle but I'd say he loses at least 5-7 lengths there which would have made him a comfortable winner if he hadn't lost them IMO.

I didn't say he'd have beat him by 10 lengths, I said if you add a bit more for race fitness. Bumper horses usually improve a lot for their first run. If CDS had beat BDA that day, anyone would mark it up a bit as BDA had a run under his belt, that's standard stuff. BDA improved 12 pounds from his debut for example (according to RPRs). If CDS does that then he has BDA well covered.

I'm not saying CDS is some good thing, I'm saying why I'm not interested in BDA. CDS has a hell of a lot to prove if he's gunna be in the conversation for the champion bumper, but it's pretty obvious where that improvement could come from.

[Dandrew99]

My viewing of the race, and I've only watched it once since, is that he was hanging a long time before he lost position. Patrick is grappling with him for basically the entire race. It then gets even worse and he loses position. I don't think it was a matter of CDS not having the speed (he might he might not) he lost position because he was being an oik. He literally only behaved in the home straight and once there is an outside rail. That's when he picks up.

Exactly this.

With CDS doing so much wrong and race fitness on his side, if BDA was a champion bumper class of horse, he would have beat CDS by a lot further IMO.

[DenmanSacre]

Eased down maybe, but he definitely came off the bridle.

Do you not think him going 1st to 4th was to do with him being awkward and hanging to the left? Hard to tell exactly from the angle but I'd say he loses at least 5-7 lengths there which would have made him a comfortable winner if he hadn't lost them IMO.

I didn't say he'd have beat him by 10 lengths, I said if you add a bit more for race fitness. Bumper horses usually improve a lot for their first run. If CDS had beat BDA that day, anyone would mark it up a bit as BDA had a run under his belt, that's standard stuff. BDA improved 12 pounds from his debut for example (according to RPRs). If CDS does that then he has BDA well covered.

I'm not saying CDS is some good thing, I'm saying why I'm not interested in BDA. CDS has a hell of a lot to prove if he's gunna be in the conversation for the champion bumper, but it's pretty obvious where that improvement could come from.

I'm maybe being harsh with the hype around him whereas a few years ago I was more lenient on Ferny Hollow for his awkward ways.

I'm not interested in either but Patrick seems to like CDS.

I think he might choose him if he wins next time even if another Mullins horse wins at the DRF and It's for Me stays favourite. He didn't sound impressed by Its for Me's home work but Daryl and Ruby have both come out and said he was working well.

[DenmanSacre]

Rock My Way winning a grade 2 and smashed by Its for Me in their PTP.

[Eggs]

….no idea if an intended runner, Fact to File 100-1 DRF/CB with Sky.

[Exar Essay]

….no idea if an intended runner, Fact to File 100-1 DRF/CB with Sky.

Crikey. That is tempting

[SeanRock]

There’s no DRF bumper page so I thought this was the best place for this. Lily Du Berlais looks completely wrong in the Unibet market at 9/1. Willie doesn’t appear to have a strong team this year. She won the race last year & Jetara gave her form a very strong franking today!

Edit: just to add she seems an intended runner so happy to risk antepost, I’d be very bullish should she take her chance.

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[Atlantic Viking]

Western Diego did that quite nicely.

[Hurricane fly]

One for the AB next year I would think the way he tanked round and shot off when asked

[darlojim]

Not much to lay for Chapeau on the exchange

[ComplyOrDie]

Not much to lay for Chapeau on the exchange

I feel like he's been like this for a while now, keep getting the odd 10 to lay then jumps to big prices.

I'm going to guess it might have something to do with the DRF next week, obviously he's not entered but plenty of Mullins ones are so something has to take up the head of the betting with Its For Me and it won't be CDS.

His time will hopefully come in the Fairyhouse bumper that Ferny won prior to going to the festival.

[darlojim]

I feel like he's been like this for a while now, keep getting the odd 10 to lay then jumps to big prices.

I'm going to guess it might have something to do with the DRF next week, obviously he's not entered but plenty of Mullins ones are so something has to take up the head of the betting with Its For Me and it won't be CDS.

His time will hopefully come in the Fairyhouse bumper that Ferny won prior to going to the festival.

FWIW - I asked Matt Chapman through twitter to get an update on Chapeau on the ATR piece this morning, he liked the tweet but failed to ask him about the horse. I'm wondering whether they go through the questions off air and Ricci has said he doesn't want to say anything regarding him right now, pure speculation of course.

[darlojim]

FWIW - I asked Matt Chapman through twitter to get an update on Chapeau on the ATR piece this morning, he liked the tweet but failed to ask him about the horse. I'm wondering whether they go through the questions off air and Ricci has said he doesn't want to say anything regarding him right now, pure speculation of course.

Ran out of time. All good with him. He could go straight to
@CheltenhamRaces
or one more run. Considered talented.

Matt was kind enough to reply to me just now.

[SeanRock]

Strong Leader just keeps franking the Ecanto Bruno bumper form from the October meeting. He seems to be very fair value 20/1 NRNB in a wide open market.

[jrjr]

This year's race is crazy. Every week there seems to be a new horse unleashed who catapults into the reckoning. PP have today's chap, Western Diego, as 6/1 second favourite!

Only one horse has cracked the 130 RPR barrier and that's Fact to File who the layers don't seem to have much fear of...