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2023 Pertemps Final

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Hurricane fly View Post
    Not sure I can take the heartache of Remastered not running again.

    He was balloted out last year off 133 I believe? This year there'll be even less qualified by the sounds of it, and he's 8lb higher. Think he'd be almost certain to get in. I'm guessing it's the intention again, with him having qualified.

    Been my only handicap bet so far. Think he's a fairly nice each way bet.

    Although something could well emerge from the Irish qualifiers that's far less exposed of course.

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    • #32
      Oi Oi
      only problem is he might have won too easily

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Liammet View Post
        Oi Oi
        only problem is he might have won too easily
        Needed to win well to get a decent weight rise to get in the race, IMO.

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        • #34
          Might have to go for the Stayers after that !! Flooring improved dramatically so why not??!! Sure to be priced up for it.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Liammet View Post
            Oi Oi
            only problem is he might have won too easily
            He needed to win to get in - think the plot was 2nd & job done in qualifying!

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Lobos View Post
              Might have to go for the Stayers after that !! Flooring improved dramatically so why not??!! Sure to be priced up for it.
              Maybe if he wins another handicap like that off his new mark which will surely be 135-140

              His old trainer must be feeling pretty sheepish right now, unless this was the plan all along and his job was to make the horse look as bad as possible before the stable switch.


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              • #37
                Feeling a bit smug as I requested him for this with PP at 25s a few weeks back

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Liammet View Post
                  Feeling a bit smug as I requested him for this with PP at 25s a few weeks back
                  I don’t think anything that’s won a qualifier has ever won the final - I’d be surprised if there isn’t something better handicapped on the day once the handicapper’s had his say & the UK handicapper adds on his tax!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Cashew King View Post

                    I don’t think anything that’s won a qualifier has ever won the final - I’d be surprised if there isn’t something better handicapped on the day once the handicapper’s had his say & the UK handicapper adds on his tax!

                    ….Maxxum was 40-1 to win today & the Final. According to Saxon’s Planner, the race has produced a few Final winners but only Cuneo has won it & placed in March.
                    Last edited by Eggs; 28 December 2022, 01:51 PM.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Cashew King View Post

                      I don’t think anything that’s won a qualifier has ever won the final - I’d be surprised if there isn’t something better handicapped on the day once the handicapper’s had his say & the UK handicapper adds on his tax!
                      I think that stat is weakened this year, as the first four home element makes it much harder to sneak one in.
                      I've definitely ignored that this season.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                        I think that stat is weakened this year, as the first four home element makes it much harder to sneak one in.
                        I've definitely ignored that this season.
                        Agree. Pretty much gone out the window now. Spoiled the race for punters.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                          I think that stat is weakened this year, as the first four home element makes it much harder to sneak one in.
                          I've definitely ignored that this season.
                          Agree it makes it harder but I’d be gobsmacked if a trainer had one rated high enough to get in was trying to win a qualifier - imo

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Cashew King View Post

                            I don’t think anything that’s won a qualifier has ever won the final - I’d be surprised if there isn’t something better handicapped on the day once the handicapper’s had his say & the UK handicapper adds on his tax!
                            Didn't Fingal Bay win a qualifier before he won the Pertemps?

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Stormez View Post

                              Didn't Fingal Bay win a qualifier before he won the Pertemps?
                              He did indeed

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                              • #45
                                Maxxum probably had to win to have a chance of getting in doesn’t he?

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