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2023 Triumph Hurdle (Juveniles)

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  • Originally posted by Winging The Last View Post
    That should finally silence the Jupiter cheerleaders
    Just seen this. No need to say that at all. We all make mistakes and take it on the chin.

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    • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

      Yep.

      Willie has the race by balls!
      100%....his to lose now

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      • It's looking like it would be a shock of the ages if either of Willie's doesn't win this race. Willing to accept my fate if the DRF confirms otherwise, but it would have to be one of the races you'd be most confident about if you have Lossiemouth and Blood Destiny at good prices. Both seem bankers for multiples.

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        • Originally posted by Irish Rugby View Post
          It's looking like it would be a shock of the ages if either of Willie's doesn't win this race. Willing to accept my fate if the DRF confirms otherwise, but it would have to be one of the races you'd be most confident about if you have Lossiemouth and Blood Destiny at good prices. Both seem bankers for multiples.
          There’s still a few nice types that haven’t been seen yet, on both sides of the water. They’ll have some way to go to beat those two, but I wouldn’t like to rule it out.

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          • Yes, and I'm old enough to see some come out in February and then rock up at the Festival. We're almost in February. Probably going to have them coming out over the next 10 days, I would think.

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            • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

              I like the nutters.
              Think he has talent, but will never compete at the top
              level if he refuses to settle a heck of a lot better than that.
              For a start they could put up a decent jockey not the unbalanced, heavy handed Jamie Moore, who shouldn't be anywhere near a keen enthusiastic pacey horse. He's just about alright on the slow boats that need some pushing and shoving in a bog. The horse will never fulfil any potential he has with that limited guy on his back. Was ridden by Niall Houlihan on his debut and that looked a perfect match up . Moore always seems so out of synch with a horse its painful to watch and he's getting worse if that's even possible. Apart from that he's a great bloke.

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              • Originally posted by riccirich View Post

                There’s still a few nice types that haven’t been seen yet, on both sides of the water. They’ll have some way to go to beat those two, but I wouldn’t like to rule it out.
                What’s left in the UK? Don’t think there’s anything not uncovered. They all have been very disappointing

                Couldnt be backing any English trained horses for this race, doubtful any will even place.

                They are miles off the quality show in IRE

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                • Originally posted by HesTheOne View Post

                  What’s left in the UK? Don’t think there’s anything not uncovered. They all have been very disappointing

                  Couldnt be backing any English trained horses for this race, doubtful any will even place.

                  They are miles off the quality show in IRE
                  I think you're wrong.
                  The depth in ireland is much bigger.
                  But comfort zone who just beat imo the best of the brits at the weekend, was only 6 1/4 lengths behind lossiemouth on their meeting. interesting to watch jj slevvins ride in that race. i remember comments about zarak the brave being stuck on the inside, so was comfort zone, and once in the clear and ask for an effort looked just as fast as lossiemouth imo.
                  It's also important to remember that was only his 2nd hurdles run too, coming just 7 days after his maiden win.
                  To say irelands best lossiemouth? is miles ahead of scriptwriter on this form line just isn't true, it could also be argued scriptwriter faced a better, fresher comfort zone.
                  obviously lossiemouth could also have improved.
                  While ahead, miles ahead is an exaggeration.
                  Last edited by AaronLad; 30 January 2023, 09:18 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by HesTheOne View Post

                    What’s left in the UK? Don’t think there’s anything not uncovered. They all have been very disappointing

                    Couldnt be backing any English trained horses for this race, doubtful any will even place.

                    They are miles off the quality show in IRE
                    There’s still two that catch the eye that we haven’t seen yet, punta del este for Skelton and irandando has for nicholls, if one or both of them turned up in the Adonis it’d be interesting to see how they get on.

                    And in Ireland you have a bunch with Mullins still not seen, gust of wind, gaucher, zenta amongst others. We might see them beforehand or one could just go straight there like haut en couleurs did.

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                    • Originally posted by riccirich View Post

                      There’s still two that catch the eye that we haven’t seen yet, punta del este for Skelton and irandando has for nicholls, if one or both of them turned up in the Adonis it’d be interesting to see how they get on.

                      And in Ireland you have a bunch with Mullins still not seen, gust of wind, gaucher, zenta amongst others. We might see them beforehand or one could just go straight there like haut en couleurs did.
                      I’ve got Gaucher down for next year. Mullins has it wrapped up already so no need to waste his novice status this year. He’s only been in the yard a short time and has no hurdling experience either. Definitely very interesting for next year though.

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                      • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post

                        I think you're wrong.
                        The depth in ireland is much bigger.
                        But comfort zone who just beat imo the best of the brits at the weekend, was only 6 1/4 lengths behind lossiemouth on their meeting. interesting to watch jj slevvins ride in that race. i remember comments about zarak the brave being stuck on the inside, so was comfort zone, and once in the clear and ask for an effort looked just as fast as lossiemouth imo.
                        It's also important to remember that was only his 2nd hurdles run too, coming just 7 days after his maiden win.
                        To say irelands best lossiemouth? is miles ahead of scriptwriter on this form line just isn't true, it could also be argued scriptwriter faced a better, fresher comfort zone.
                        obviously lossiemouth could also have improved.
                        While ahead, miles ahead is an exaggeration.
                        Respect your opinion but I stand by what i said, scriptwriter is likely their best shot and come march he’ll be looking at the backside of 3 or 4 Irish horses cross the line ahead of him

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                        • Originally posted by HesTheOne View Post

                          Respect your opinion but I stand by what i said, scriptwriter is likely their best shot and come march he’ll be looking at the backside of 3 or 4 Irish horses cross the line ahead of him
                          I agree with this. We don't have many form lines to go on, so I couldn't be as confident, however, what we do have would lead me to believe it is a convincing defeat for the British in the race, yet again.

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                          • So to date it's been a pretty modest bunch outside of the top two in the betting for the Triumph(IMO) & I'll say nice and early I don't get too involved in this or the boodles, but after seeing the rating given to Scriptwriter(132),(who will go Triumph given what the trainer thinks of him) and inevitably Comfort Zone who must be 133, how many are going to line up in the Triumph this year?

                            It's looking quite a small pool of horses that can run to and above 140 thus far, the ceiling in the Boodles has been 22-137,21-141,20-140,19-141,18-139 the last 5 years, this years could be the lowest yet(another reason to bin it) and given something in the top 3 of the weights has been 1st or 2nd the last 4 years in the hcap you couldn't fault JP for sending Comfort Zone here even after Saturdays win could you.
                            Last edited by Outlaw; 31 January 2023, 09:17 AM.

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                            • Is there a problem with Blood Destiny as got it in a nice winning double yesterday with 365 after they went NRNB but its greyed out and didnt even offer me a cashout after the 1st horse won?

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                              • Originally posted by somer1 View Post
                                Is there a problem with Blood Destiny as got it in a nice winning double yesterday with 365 after they went NRNB but its greyed out and didnt even offer me a cashout after the 1st horse won?
                                Price is still solid on the exchange so likely nothing to it.

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