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2023 Triumph Hurdle (Juveniles)

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  • #46
    Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

    Now that I would read

    The gushing really makes me distrust the comments. I much prefer Willie.

    “He’s a horse. He could go hurdling, he could go chasing. We’ll start off at 2 miles and see from there. Remind me again, which horse am I talking about now?”
    I recall a pre Cheltenham tour maybe 2015 or 16 where Mullins' was "They're all machines" and Hendo's was "They're all injured"

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    • #47
      Originally posted by robith View Post

      Be great to read honest stable tours "He's muck mate, wouldn't back him with stolen. We've absolutely had the owner's eyes out tbh"

      "He'd be one maybe for the Boodles - I couldn't put you off a place lay"
      Would make great reading, albeit expensive when all the owners remove their horses from the yard !
      You are right though, stable tours are interesting but rarely give off any nuggets, they’re great for getting us excited about the season…

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      • #48
        Two juveniles mentioned in Joseph's tour - Good Heavens and Nusret. Anyone know anything on these?

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        • #49
          Originally posted by RoadToCheltenham View Post
          Two juveniles mentioned in Joseph's tour - Good Heavens and Nusret. Anyone know anything on these?
          I picked up on Nusret and put him in my tracker after reading this:

          ​​​​​​https://www.irishracing.com/news/Nus...-double/234746

          He's been $hit since!!

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          • #50
            Originally posted by RoadToCheltenham View Post
            Two juveniles mentioned in Joseph's tour - Good Heavens and Nusret. Anyone know anything on these?
            A lot to like on paper about Good Heavens, solid flat rating and JP owned, looks like it's caught everyone by surprise as can't see him priced up anywhere

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Native River View Post

              A lot to like on paper about Good Heavens, solid flat rating and JP owned, looks like it's caught everyone by surprise as can't see him priced up anywhere
              It’s always tough to know which horses will convert to jumps from the flat when they are with the stable already. It’s often the stable tours that give the first indication.

              JP will have a bunch of options for juveniles this season spread across a few trainers. Some will obviously be campaigned with the Boodles in mind but knowing which involves a bit of guesswork.

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              • #52
                Am I right is saying Lossiemouth wont qualify for a 3yr old maiden for first time out this season?

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by FredFlintstone View Post
                  Am I right is saying Lossiemouth wont qualify for a 3yr old maiden for first time out this season?
                  Yes, I believe that is right but do remember the Triumph is not a novice hurdle. It was a similar situation with Gordon Elliott’s Qulixios whom, as we know, then went on to win the Triumph.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by FredFlintstone View Post
                    Am I right is saying Lossiemouth wont qualify for a 3yr old maiden for first time out this season?
                    By definition, a Maiden is for horses that have yet to win a race under that discipline. So whilst she’ll be eligible for juvenile and novice hurdles of any sex, she should not be able to run in any form of Maiden over hurdles.

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                    • #55
                      Thanks for the clarification.

                      I wonder if he will run her in a graded 3yr old first time out, Apples Jade with a similar profile won the graded 3yr old in Leopardstown over Christmas.

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                      • #56


                        Positive news at least for any Gala backers

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                        • #57
                          ….given his history with the race, worth noting a couple of Elliott newcomers with entries at Down Royal.

                          Old Victoria is widely available @ 40-1, New Years Honours is 33-1 Hills.

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                          • #58
                            Big move for New Year Honours here. Went out to 11's now into 4's. Let's see if it's justified.

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                            • #59
                              My views on the Old Victoria form very much realised there. She'll get a handicap mark now though.

                              Nice start over hurdles for New Year Honours, but ultimately comfortably beat.

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                              • #60
                                Old Vic tailed off poorly, NYH not the slickest at times but had a lot to give at the end.

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