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2023 Triumph Hurdle (Juveniles)

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  • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

    Thats the real St Donats today... Donal Meyler was schooled around there, only one to stay on the far side coming down the home straight, not usually the place to be but well beaten regardless.
    Yeah, I agree. McTigue for the Boodles then

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    • McTigue took the route you take round Auteuil where you don't want to win.

      Definitely planning for handicaps. After beating St Donats last time the market also told you what you needed to know.
      Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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      • Originally posted by Spectre View Post
        McTigue took the route you take round Auteuil where you don't want to win.

        Definitely planning for handicaps. After beating St Donats last time the market also told you what you needed to know.
        God it seems like I haven't seen your name post for a while Paul, the forum doesn't seem the same without as much input from the likes of you, Kev, Jono and Saxon.

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        • Originally posted by Spectre View Post
          McTigue took the route you take round Auteuil where you don't want to win.

          Definitely planning for handicaps. After beating St Donats last time the market also told you what you needed to know.
          It is tough to know for sure what young Emmet & Mr Byrne are up to.

          However, to think the run in the grade 1 was to get a handicap mark seems silly, given the prize money on offer on Sunday and he'd beaten the favourite over course and distance previously.

          It looked a deliberate move by the jockey and who knows why they chose to do that

          But I'd be pretty sure it wasn't to help him win a future handicap. I think Emmet is smarter than that.

          The prize money for Sunday was over 5x what the Boodles pays !
          And the value of the horse to sell on would have been substantially increased.

          IMO, They were trying to win the race for sure, and it went wrong. And he wasn't good enough on the day.
          Last edited by Quevega; 14 November 2022, 08:06 PM.

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          • Although possibly tenuous, the St Donats win does have a form line (via David Du Berlais) back to Bo Zenith and could be classed as a form boost for him.

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            • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
              Although possibly tenuous, the St Donats win does have a form line (via David Du Berlais) back to Bo Zenith and could be classed as a form boost for him.
              2nd finished 6th in Bo Zenith's maiden as well.

              Have you heard anything about Blood Destiny who finished 2nd in that race?

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              • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                God it seems like I haven't seen your name post for a while Paul, the forum doesn't seem the same without as much input from the likes of you, Kev, Jono and Saxon.
                Yeah, big Marvel Phase 5 vibes on the forum these days haha

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                • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post

                  2nd finished 6th in Bo Zenith's maiden as well.

                  Have you heard anything about Blood Destiny who finished 2nd in that race?
                  Other than he’s with Willie, that’s all I know. Could be a springer to reverse that form with Bo Zenith if Willie extracts his usual amount of improvement or, as he’s a maiden, he could be put away given Willies armoury in the juvenile division.
                  Last edited by JackieMoon33; 16 November 2022, 09:58 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

                    Other than he’s with Willie, that’s all I know. Could be a springer to reverse that form with Bo Zenith of Willie extracts his usual amount of improvement or, as he’s a maiden, he could be put away given Willies armoury in the juvenile division.
                    I reckon it will be the latter, personally. One for next season in the novice hurdle division.

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                    • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                      I reckon it will be the latter, personally. One for next season in the novice hurdle division.
                      I’d agree too. No Risk At All progeny aren’t usually sharp juveniles although he doesn’t have have a traditional NH pedigree.

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                      • Interested to see how Sundial goes today in the 12.20 at Punchestown. Same connections and yard as Cougar, so they'll likely know what they have.

                        Only one bookmaker priced up for the Triumph so far, so I won't be getting involved pre-race.

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                        • …Nusret a best price 20-1 for this after that win.

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                          • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                            Interested to see how Sundial goes today in the 12.20 at Punchestown. Same connections and yard as Cougar, so they'll likely know what they have.

                            Only one bookmaker priced up for the Triumph so far, so I won't be getting involved pre-race.
                            One for the Boodles then. Never really thrown the kitchen sink at, stayed on nicely for 6th.

                            Brazil 2.0

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                            • Blood Destiny entered at Navan on Sunday. Hope we get to see him.

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                              • ….Mullins re Tekao today;

                                “A very sharp horse, a real 3yo hurdle type. He won on the flat, jumps fine at home but I expect him to be a little green because he hasn’t had a lot of experience racing. He only had one run on the flat so it’s a big learning curve for him over hurdles & learning how to race too but he was impressive on that start & the form is working out well. He’s fit and well and could win but whatever he does on Sunday he will improve an awful lot in the future.”

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