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2023 Novice Chasers

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  • Originally posted by charlie View Post

    GDM backers for the NHC basically need GDM to be withdrawn or run like shit. Willie persisting down the Grade 1 route having seemingly decided he's a Grade 1 horse is in itself, a NHC red flag. If he were to win (I don't think he will) then the NHC would surely be out. If he were to lose marginally into 2nd or 3rd by a few lengths, then I still think Willie will be eying up the BANC not NHC. Such a great race.
    He always said he'd go down the G1 route with him, and he's stuck to that, in fairness.

    I don't think he needs to run like shit though (that would be a negative for any race at the festival). Any run behind JDB, Kilcruit or I Am Maximus will see him go out in trip as I think whoever wins the Flogas will end up in the BANC for Willie.

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    • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

      Who else does Mullins realistically have for the NH Chase ?
      He has several possible darts for the BANC surely...
      He has Ramilles, who you'd have to fancy in March if GDM doesn't show up

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      • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

        He always said he'd go down the G1 route with him, and he's stuck to that, in fairness.

        I don't think he needs to run like shit though (that would be a negative for any race at the festival). Any run behind JDB, Kilcruit or I Am Maximus will see him go out in trip as I think whoever wins the Flogas will end up in the BANC for Willie.
        If Willie wins the flogas beating mighty potter I’d say the turners more likely for obvious reasons

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        • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

          Who else does Mullins realistically have for the NH Chase ?
          He has several possible darts for the BANC surely...
          Ramilles is currently second favourite for the NHC. He's just beat the third favourite convincingly.

          The BANC is poor this year - if GDM turned up and performed to his rating, the only other horses who could reach that rating for me who may turn up is James du Berlais, Gerri Colombe or Sir Gerhard. Thyme Hill is joint favourite and is up there as the worst current favourite of the week.

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          • Unless it’s GDM

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            • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

              If Willie wins the flogas beating mighty potter I’d say the turners more likely for obvious reasons
              Even with Sir Gerhard on the scene, and if Appreciate It is beaten in the Irish Arkle?

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              • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                There’s one or two where Willie mentions ground concerns for the weekend
                All declared but hopefully they’ve watered enough
                Do you know which horses this was in relation to?

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                • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                  Even with Sir Gerhard on the scene, and if Appreciate It is beaten in the Irish Arkle?
                  A maiden winner with 1 run and a beaten horse
                  yeah I’d say he would
                  Last edited by Quevega; 3 February 2023, 12:51 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by Geegees View Post

                    Do you know which horses this was in relation to?
                    Stattler JDB and one other
                    he wasn’t categoric, just brought it up.
                    Stattler in particular as he blamed the ground at Cheltenham for why he didn’t run again last season
                    obviously came back a bit sore

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                    • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                      A maiden winner with 1 run and a beaten horse
                      yeah I’d say he would
                      Overall his history of Flogas winners to the BANC & the Turners (since it started) is levels, 3 a piece, so it will be interesting to see how it plays out this season.

                      Recency bias would lead us to the Turners though.

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                      • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

                        Who else does Mullins realistically have for the NH Chase ?
                        He has several possible darts for the BANC surely...
                        Ramilles has always looked like he wants 5-6 miles to my eye so wouldn't expect him to take in anything else

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                        • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                          Overall his history of Flogas winners to the BANC & the Turners (since it started) is levels, 3 a piece, so it will be interesting to see how it plays out this season.

                          Recency bias would lead us to the Turners though.
                          Beating mighty potter would make them favourite
                          don’t think history matters.
                          unless it’s a scruffy win or something weird happens of course.
                          might potter will piss it anyway barring accidents

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                          • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

                            Who else does Mullins realistically have for the NH Chase ?
                            He has several possible darts for the BANC surely...
                            Do we have a baited fish ok emoji yet?
                            Surely you can see big Ram sitting second in the market. Super subs don't get much more super.

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                            • Mullins bingo is in overdrive on here today

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                              • Originally posted by charlie View Post
                                Surely you can see big Ram sitting second in the market. Super subs don't get much more super.
                                You'll need a rod capable of sharks calling Ramillies super

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