2023 Novice Chasers

[Quevega]

Out of interest and I’m not bullshitting....have you ever done a Mensa test or emotional intelligence ....EQI....i suspect you couldn’t care less about either but I also suspect you are at genius level on IQ and I also suspect you are off the charts on EI too...anyhow I’ve already derailed the thread far too much and apologies to everybody

My IQ has declined unfortunately, to above average.
Even though I self diagnosed myself as a genius many years ago
My Emotional Intelligence is in the excellent range and so is my self awareness (years of gazing in the mirror at myself has paid off)

However, I'm also increasingly creeping up the spectrum for autism, which I find is a brilliant excuse to use for my anti social and pernickety ways with regards some aspects of life.
very much like the comedian Jon Richardson.

[Quevega]

Can you take Q being a genius with no empathy onto general chat please

My empathy is off the scale. I'll have you know.
The shooting pains up my arse is proof.

[Carnage at Taunton]

Well you judged those posts wrong too and interesting that you chose to judge me on posts you can’t fully remember.... It has never been about me putting myself on a pedastool in the caring stakes..

What l I have done is give my opinion, and talked about my own struggles, between loving a sport that I feel can and does imo understate the painful reality that this sport can be brutal in terms of fatalities and injuries, both major and minor.

I won’t go into the subsequent exchanges as I suspect the way I worded my posts back then allowed the opportunity for being judged incorrectly and I am to blame for that absolutely and I am slowly realising that in order to avoid similar fate I have to put enormous effort into the precise wording of posts.

Unfortunately I suffer from hyper sensitivity which is a real thing believe it or not therefore it is much better for me to take more care over the wording of my posts than most as I have suffered a great deal when I have worded things clumsily in the past.

I am a hypocrite because my love for the sport is greater than any sympathy I have for the horses which is why I have carried on watching today. I struggle enormously with my hypocrisy ...others handle it much better than I do and i am envious. Next time if you want to judge me you have the option of clarifying my intent first. If you choose not to do that as is your right there is nothing I can do about that.

Well that makes me a hypocrite too then.
Because I love the sport despite it containing harm to those who enable me to enjoy it, and being an animal
lover I probably should switch off, but I also carry on watching cos I’m hooked.
But I need to stop reacting the way I do at times, like I have today.

[Carnage at Taunton]

Interesting that when asked on RTV earlier today who were 'his highlights of the festive period', Paul Townend mentioned Dysart Dynamo as one (Facile Vega was the other) whilst acknowleding them all....

Impressive for an 'ok' jumper Carnage at Taunton - you watched it back yet?

Yes I have Kev
Well I had to didn’t I !!
Yes, he was better than ok in his jumping, and he does look a natural.
Could be some sight him and Jonbon , and hopefully one or two others

[DenmanSacre]

Interesting that when asked on RTV earlier today who were 'his highlights of the festive period', Paul Townend mentioned Dysart Dynamo as one (Facile Vega was the other) whilst acknowleding them all....

Impressive for an 'ok' jumper Carnage at Taunton - you watched it back yet?

Good to see Dysart Dynamo settle and win a slow on the clock race.

Now just need to see if he is over his heart issue in a strongly run Irish Arkle.

Have there been any comments about his issue at Punchestown last year?
DD given a 155p by Timeform. Apprexiate It 150P and El Fabiolo 152p. Jonbon got a 152P on debut.

[Zachx02]

154 RPR for DD

[Carnage at Taunton]

Good to see Dysart Dynamo settle and win a slow on the clock race.

Now just need to see if he is over his heart issue in a strongly run Irish Arkle.

Have there been any comments about his issue at Punchestown last year?
DD given a 155p by Timeform. Apprexiate It 150P and El Fabiolo 152p. Jonbon got a 152P on debut.

I think, asides from the festival itself, that the Irish Arkle is the race i am most looking forward to.
Going to be fascinating to watch and see how much any of them improve from their debut over fences and if it becomes really clear who the best will be.
My gut feeling is AI won’t be there, but I do think there’s a fair chance Mullins will have the other 3 there.

[FinalFurlong91]

Good to see Dysart Dynamo settle and win a slow on the clock race.

Now just need to see if he is over his heart issue in a strongly run Irish Arkle.

Have there been any comments about his issue at Punchestown last year?
DD given a 155p by Timeform. Apprexiate It 150P and El Fabiolo 152p. Jonbon got a 152P on debut.

Don't envy the person that has to try and rate those three Irish horses races. All massive odds on, given easy leads and had public schooling sessions.

the drf will blow these novice chase markets wide open

[archie]

Given my previously expressed views about RPRs, I feel slightly reticent about quoting their first run marks for the main players in the Arkle. However, I also said that we all use them to back up our own opinions so, with the rider that a rating for a single run is an almost impossible ask, we now have a full set of figures. An inexact and subjective view but at least presumably impartial.

159 Jonbon (2nd run 164)
159 El Fabiolo
155 Saint Roi (2nd run 158)
154 Appreciate It
154 Dysart Dynamo

[opatcho]

Given my previously expressed views about RPRs, I feel slightly reticent about quoting their first run marks for the main players in the Arkle. However, I also said that we all use them to back up our own opinions so, with the rider that a rating for a single run is an almost impossible ask, we now have a full set of figures. An inexact and subjective view but at least presumably impartial.

159 Jonbon (2nd run 164)
159 El Fabiolo
155 Saint Roi (2nd run 158)
154 Appreciate It
154 Dysart Dynamo

I could argue those RPR's but, shall just wait until all of them have had a second run
Feel Dysart could easily hit mid 160 with Jonbon
not so sure about the rest, low 160's

[YoungHustler]

The Turners market is so open. Of the top 10 quoted you can legitimately draw lines through 7 of them, without much doubt:

Sir Gerhard - probably out for the season
Allegorie De Vassy - mares chase almost certainly
State Man - champion hurdler
Dysart Dynamo - 2m or not at all
Gerri Colombe - BANC or NHC
Jonbon - Arkle
Thyme Hill - BANC

I really fancy Mighty Potter and think his only challengers will come from ElFab, Appreciate It. James De Berlais and Monmiral. Note these 4 could easily go to other races or not at all in Monmiral's case which would make MP and even stronger fancy imo.

[Quevega]

I really fancy Mighty Potter and think his only challengers will come from ElFab, Appreciate It. James De Berlais and Monmiral. Note these 4 could easily go to other races or not at all in Monmiral's case which would make MP and even stronger fancy imo.

For a variety of reasons Mighty Potter has enhanced his claims for Cheltenham without running this Christmas.

Gaillard du mesnil winning a grade 1. And looking like his main rival at Dublin if that's the way they go.
The Faugheen Novice chase won by Gerri Colombe also franked his form, via those in behind.
The sad loss of 3 stripe.
All of Willies 2 mile options remain solid enough meaning it's likely the one that under performs the next day will be the Turner's horse.
And other potential rivals have not been sighted.
The UK challenge looks as thin as it gets.

I have money down on 3 horses for the turners at present.
Mighty Potter, Appreciate It & Minella Cocooner.
It would take a fair performance for me to back anything else at this point.

[YoungHustler]

For a variety of reasons Mighty Potter has enhanced his claims for Cheltenham without running this Christmas.

Gaillard du mesnil winning a grade 1. And looking like his main rival at Dublin if that's the way they go.
The Faugheen Novice chase won by Gerri Colombe also franked his form, via those in behind.
The sad loss of 3 stripe.
All of Willies 2 mile options remain solid enough meaning it's likely the one that under performs the next day will be the Turner's horse.
And other potential rivals have not been sighted.
The UK challenge looks as thin as it gets.

I have money down on 3 horses for the turners at present.
Mighty Potter, Appreciate It & Minella Cocooner.
It would take a fair performance for me to back anything else at this point.

The only other horse I have cash on is Minella Cocooner too. I'm going to cover Monmiral before Saturday's run as I quite liked his debut behind Jonbon and feel he will be more suited to the Turner's trip. I'll also cover the others after NRNB comes in as insurance due to MP being a large pay out if he wins.

[SeanRock]

For a variety of reasons Mighty Potter has enhanced his claims for Cheltenham without running this Christmas.

Gaillard du mesnil winning a grade 1. And looking like his main rival at Dublin if that's the way they go.
The Faugheen Novice chase won by Gerri Colombe also franked his form, via those in behind.
The sad loss of 3 stripe.
All of Willies 2 mile options remain solid enough meaning it's likely the one that under performs the next day will be the Turner's horse.
And other potential rivals have not been sighted.
The UK challenge looks as thin as it gets.

I have money down on 3 horses for the turners at present.
Mighty Potter, Appreciate It & Minella Cocooner.
It would take a fair performance for me to back anything else at this point.

Agree entirely, my original & main pick is MP but I’ve had a good cover in Appreciate It, 12/1 with B365 is very good value he’s half that with the cute hoors in Paddies.

[charlie]

For a variety of reasons Mighty Potter has enhanced his claims for Cheltenham without running this Christmas.

Gaillard du mesnil winning a grade 1. And looking like his main rival at Dublin if that's the way they go.
The Faugheen Novice chase won by Gerri Colombe also franked his form, via those in behind.
The sad loss of 3 stripe.
All of Willies 2 mile options remain solid enough meaning it's likely the one that under performs the next day will be the Turner's horse.
And other potential rivals have not been sighted.
The UK challenge looks as thin as it gets.

I have money down on 3 horses for the turners at present.
Mighty Potter, Appreciate It & Minella Cocooner.
It would take a fair performance for me to back anything else at this point.

Agree with all that Q. One of Willies Arkle horses is likely to step up IMO and El Fab, who was the least impressive jumper, might be the one. If you add him to your list at 10/1 I suspect you've prob backed the Turners winner.