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2023 Novice Chasers

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  • Constitution Hill would certainly have helped them make up their minds. He's hopefully schooled well which would have helped too. The right decision. Poor old Willie, he's had to watch his best 2 milers get hammered by Honey and now CH emerges!

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    • This is nothing in the know or anything like that but Dysart Dynamo has been pretty weak for the Arkle on the exchanges for at least the past week to 10 days.

      He's either school badly or something has gone wrong with him, IMO. Of course, it is pure speculation on my part, so don't be cashing it unless you want to, but from my experience there is rarely smoke without fire.

      FWIW, Betfair and PP both lengthened him to 16/1 recently too.

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      • Doesn't look good does it. Sort of mirrors the Ferney fate. Luckily he doesn't appear to be very popular with FJ boys anyway.

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        • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
          This is nothing in the know or anything like that but Dysart Dynamo has been pretty weak for the Arkle on the exchanges for at least the past week to 10 days.

          He's either school badly or something has gone wrong with him, IMO. Of course, it is pure speculation on my part, so don't be cashing it unless you want to, but from my experience there is rarely smoke without fire.

          FWIW, Betfair and PP both lengthened him to 16/1 recently too.
          Not saying you're wrong here, but they pushed out basically everyone not called Jonbon. The exchange bit is a valid concern, but I wouldn't read anything into the PP drift.

          Was there not a very similar situation this time last year with Dysart and it turned out to be nothing?

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          • ….Timeform, highest rated novice chasers;

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            • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

              One of them might debut in it I reckon as he might not have much choice.
              I'd expect he'll leave one or 2 in it anyway and see how the race looks close to decs.
              There hasn't really been anything scary over 2 miles from the other Irish trainers.
              He has a good read on the race with Saint Roi.

              He potentially has 5 grade 1 - 2 mile novice chasers on his hands and none have had a run yet.

              I'd say it's unlikely - but Sir Gerhard and Appreciate it in particular might be considered.
              Or he may just go based on the schooling and not the experience and class.
              If Dysart or Fabiolo were to be put straight into this race then that would potentially be a statement. One way or another
              The John Durkan Punchestown fixture, which has been rearranged for next Monday, has a 2m beginners chase on the card. Hopefully we'll see at least one of El Fabiolo, Dysart Dynamo, Flame Bearer, Appreciate It or Sir Gerhard entered given the limited number of beginners chases in Ireland over the Xmas period

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              • Originally posted by On The Fringe View Post

                The John Durkan Punchestown fixture, which has been rearranged for next Monday, has a 2m beginners chase on the card. Hopefully we'll see at least one of El Fabiolo, Dysart Dynamo, Flame Bearer, Appreciate It or Sir Gerhard entered given the limited number of beginners chases in Ireland over the Xmas period
                Hes going to have no choice but to run a couple of them against eachother soon if he wants to get them into graded company without just throwing them into it

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                • Originally posted by Zachx02 View Post

                  Hes going to have no choice but to run a couple of them against eachother soon if he wants to get them into graded company without just throwing them into it
                  Or bring one of them over to Kempton for the Wayward Lad. Doubt it will be any more competitive than an Irish beginners chase. Easy ?30k and a grade 2 to the CV although Il Est Francais could be going there.

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                  • TSL to go up in trip over Christmas?

                    Elliott said: "Three Stripe Life is fine after Fairyhouse. He had a few different options over Christmas and we'll have a think about the 3m race for him. Nothing is set in stone with him yet.

                    In tonight's RP.

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                    • Originally posted by YoungHustler View Post
                      TSL to go up in trip over Christmas?

                      Elliott said: "Three Stripe Life is fine after Fairyhouse. He had a few different options over Christmas and we'll have a think about the 3m race for him. Nothing is set in stone with him yet.

                      In tonight's RP.
                      No idea ! Haven't got to grips with any of the Novice chasers or Hurdlers targets this season. I'm finding it impossible. Always difficult but this season is just unreal. Reading through the posts on here I think we are all in the same boat. Someone's going to get lucky and get it right!!

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                      • Rare oddity in the market with GDM still available at 3/1 for the NH Chase but just 3.15 on betfair.
                        Must have been a recent machine plunge…

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                        • Not much 3's left now. Into 5/2 PP/Bf, Unibet &Fred. Someone thinks Willie has made a decision  ​​​​​

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                          • You sure Pricewise hasn't tipped him up ??

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                            • 365 gone El Fabiolo 13/2, general 5-6 everywhere else’s.

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                              • Interesting to see WPM has only Appreciate It and Dysart Dynamo entered for the rearranged 2m Beginners Chase at Punchestown next Monday. Wonder if that means El Fabiolo and Flame Bearer are more likely for the 2m Beginners Chase at Fairyhouse on Saturday.

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