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2023 Novice Chasers

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  • Interesting that Gordon says he's ground dependent though.

    Softer Ground.
    He may not run at Cheltenham.

    So I dont see him having only 1 plan for that race.

    Hopefully Willie mentions one or two in his Stable Tours this week
    "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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    • Odd that there has been money for Ash Tree Meadow this morning. Perhaps he's going to throw a few at it.

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      • Had two last year didn't he. And the year before (although technically none of course).

        Regarding Chemical Energy, Elliot did say in his stable tour;

        "...seems to be a horse who is best fresh and then trains off a bit as the season goes on."

        So I guess the plan to now take a break and freshen him up before Cheltenham was always his intention. Although had a decent break before the Martin Pipe last year as well, and ran averagely.

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        • As with any AP horse it's half the job done knowing it's target. Chemical Energy is now in that bracket and will be wrapped up in cotton wool now so the 10/1 now still looks decent value. He'll not be that for sure on the day which is his next race, especially with Gordon's exceptional record in the NHC. I wouldn't be too worried ground wise as there was plenty of cut yesterday (riding soft side of good) . The way he travelled and went through the line yesterday you'd have to say he excelled due to the big step up in distance and he could easily have gone round again.
          Last edited by Lobos; 23 October 2022, 01:38 PM.

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          • Easy to say after the event but breeding would have him one of the more obvious Gordon NH Chase, however the fact he started the season off over 2m was a massive curveball and threw everyone off the scent (don't think anyone mentioned him for the race on here).

            So just to clarify, he is by Well Chosen, a sire of the likes of Jury Duty and Carefully Selected, but also a sire of a previous Gordon Grand Annual winner, Chosen Mate. I guess this is where the start over 2m probably meant he went into a fair few handicap lists. His Dam is by Flemensfirth, sire of the likes of Imperial Commander, Tidal Bay and Lostintranslation. Either way, his breeding has him more favourable than say, Ash Tree Meadow, of the same yard.

            I will be doing my utmost to get him onside from here on out.

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            • 12/1 (which I think has now gone) about Chemical Energy feels a bit short, then you tally up his plus points:

              1. Clear target.
              2. GE is 4/8 in the race (I'm giving him Galvin).
              3. GE will secure top amateur.
              4. CE handles Cheltenham.
              5. Breeding suggests he'll enjoy further.

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              • ….Hills have added CE to their NHC market at 12-1 (without boost). They are 10-1 TWAR.

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                • Mick Fitz on Jonbon just now on ITV:

                  "He's already schooled and jumped like a handicapper."

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                  • Originally posted by YoungHustler View Post
                    Mick Fitz on Jonbon just now on ITV:

                    "He's already schooled and jumped like a handicapper."
                    Does he mean an experienced handicapper or a low grade one? Kind of begs more Q's than it answers, though he did stick him up as his one to follow, I believe. How original of him

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                    • Originally posted by YoungHustler View Post
                      Mick Fitz on Jonbon just now on ITV:

                      "He's already schooled and jumped like a handicapper."
                      FFS. He put him up as one of his 2 horse to follow

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                      • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                        Does he mean an experienced handicapper or a low grade one? Kind of begs more Q's than it answers, though he did stick him up as his one to follow, I believe. How original of him
                        I'm really hoping he meant Jonbon jumped like an experienced handicapper...

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                        • Aye, think he's meant it as a compliment.
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                          • Originally posted by somer1 View Post

                            FFS. He put him up as one of his 2 horse to follow
                            He's an utter idiot. Worse tipster out there. Makes it up as he goes along I think.

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                            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                              He's an utter idiot. Worse tipster out there. Makes it up as he goes along I think.
                              Me West Country Cousin. He put to up to follow so he wouldn't have put them up if he didn't think they had a chance. Im happy as got both in the book from yonks ago
                              Anyhows thought yous were a gashead

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                              • Originally posted by somer1 View Post

                                FFS. He put him up as one of his 2 horse to follow
                                It's meant to be a compliment i believe

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