2023 Novice Chasers

[Can't Catch Me]

Minella Cocconer is by Flemensfirth out of an Old Vic mare, everything screams stamina to me! I think he's nailed on to go for the BANC myself.

[Can't Catch Me]

Arkle - El Fabiolo, Dysart Dynamo, Flame Bearer

Turners - Appreciate It, Sir Gerhard(if he goes chasing), James Du Berlais

RSA - Minella Cocooner

How I see it right now

Exactly how I see it too

[FinalFurlong91]

Minella Cocconer is by Flemensfirth out of an Old Vic mare, everything screams stamina to me! I think he's nailed on to go for the BANC myself.

As the clear second best staying hurdler 10/1 is a very solid price too if the nice guy is out

[Irish Rugby]

Any news on the specific The Nice Guy 'setback'? The word 'likely' being used, means what exactly?

[Ballyfitz]

As the clear second best staying hurdler 10/1 is a very solid price too if the nice guy is out

Still available any race at 7/1 with both Hills and Sky (Minella Cocooner)

[FinalFurlong91]

Still available any race at 7/1 with both Hills and Sky (Minella Cocooner)

Good shout, that is value now

[ComplyOrDie]

Minella Cocconer is by Flemensfirth out of an Old Vic mare, everything screams stamina to me! I think he's nailed on to go for the BANC myself.

Yeah, 100%. Not sure where the Turners chat started tbh. On breeding he is possibly one of the more obvious ones for 3 miles.

[Stormez]

Yeah, 100%. Not sure where the Turners chat started tbh. On breeding he is possibly one of the more obvious ones for 3 miles.

Willie mentioned shorter trips for him in his stable tour. And I backed him months ago for the Turners after someone on here mooted the possibility. Can’t remember what they said but must’ve been convincing

[Benjy23]

Yeah, 100%. Not sure where the Turners chat started tbh. On breeding he is possibly one of the more obvious ones for 3 miles.

Agree I'd had him more as a BANC or even NHC type.

It's started from the Mullins stable tour. See below:

"...sometimes can be a bit keen on the racetrack, which means he will probably come back in trip."

TNG being out probably makes that even less likely now mind.

[ComplyOrDie]

Willie mentioned shorter trips for him in his stable tour. And I backed him months ago for the Turners after someone on here mooted the possibility. Can’t remember what they said but must’ve been convincing

Ahh makes sense. I hadn't seen the comments from Willie tbh, cheers

[Winging The Last]

Arkle - El Fabiolo, Dysart Dynamo, Flame Bearer

Turners - Appreciate It, Sir Gerhard(if he goes chasing), James Du Berlais

RSA - Minella Cocooner

How I see it right now

How I see it mostly, however the way Willie was talking about Kilcruit showing a lot more at home than he did for the whole of last season and more like his bumper season you would have to throw him into the mix. If that's the case I think the Turners would be more his race and therefore you could see Appreciate It moving up as the same owners,

Also you have Ramillies now looking more likely to go the RSA and you could chuck in Classic Getaway but he has a lot to prove.

One scenario which would throw the cat among the pigeons line GDC last season is that Willie sends Galliard Du Mesnil to the RSA now that The Nice Guy is out and Ramillies to the NHC (Hopefully not)

[ComplyOrDie]

Agree I'd had him more as a BANC or even NHC type.

It's started from the Mullins stable tour. See below:

"...sometimes can be a bit keen on the racetrack, which means he will probably come back in trip."

TNG being out probably makes that even less likely now mind.

Cheers mate. Yeah, hadn't seen this. Wouldn't surprise me if he starts out over shorter than 3m, most seem to anyway.

[Winging The Last]

In other 'RSA' news, there has been a huge plunge on JWM in the race today. Most places reducing to 10/12s with 365 & WH down to 20s

[Zachx02]

How I see it mostly, however the way Willie was talking about Kilcruit showing a lot more at home than he did for the whole of last season and more like his bumper season you would have to throw him into the mix. If that's the case I think the Turners would be more his race and therefore you could see Appreciate It moving up as the same owners,

Also you have Ramillies now looking more likely to go the RSA and you could chuck in Classic Getaway but he has a lot to prove.

One scenario which would throw the cat among the pigeons line GDC last season is that Willie sends Galliard Du Mesnil to the RSA now that The Nice Guy is out and Ramillies to the NHC (Hopefully not)

Can't touch kilcruit at all personally until I've seen him race over fences once after what we saw over hurdles

[Winging The Last]

Willie mentioned shorter trips for him in his stable tour. And I backed him months ago for the Turners after someone on here mooted the possibility. Can’t remember what they said but must’ve been convincing

I think it was because he was such a standout price at 33/1 when Willie already had The Nice Guy for the 'RSA' who had beaten him twice, so was a big possibility of him dropping back in trip (and with the way he ran his races). Up in the air now though