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  • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
    Really think James Du Berlais is going to hack up tomorrow and put Mighty Potter firmly in his place, he just oozed class on his debut, and very much had the best hurdles form out of these on offer. The double green have some ammo to go to war with it seems this season! Deservedly so aswell, they put plenty into the game.
    They really have. El Fabiolo winning today definitely opens up the Turners door for JDB. Will he be good enough though.....I have my doubts. Another brutal race in prospect tomorrow. A bit like Gerri today, if Mighty Potter wins against the Mullins battalion then he deserves to be odds on fav for the Turners. I haven't backed him but hope he does the business.

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    • Feeling the same as a lot of others, have appreciate it backed for the turners but don't really fancy him that much now. He's just gonna get improved past by the young guns isn't he.

      Annoyed I didn't get on Potter at the fancy prices but too late now, will have to take him on with JDB.

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      • That really was a monster performance from EF. Lift him out the race and the main protagonists are fighting out the finish, and he's beaten them by 10L. Thats an RPR in the 170's performance and he's achieved that still making mistakes (4th last). I hated seeing Appreciate It beaten but loved what EF did. Brilliant seeing DD showed up too, that was needed.

        Today will be fascinating with a view to the Turners. The race now looks a more likely destination for Appreciate It and David Mullins said he'd be shocked if Sir Gerhard ended up anywhere else. I never rated Mighty Potter over hurdles and was heavily critical on debut, but that performance last time out was absolute mustard IMO. Pure class. I think he'll be very hard to beat today and both Willies runners will be racing today with a view to going up the BANC.

        Loved what Gerri did yesterday. He's been in the book for a while now and the BANC is looking prime for him. Yesterday was not ideal. The ground could have been softer and the trip could have been longer, but he ground it out. He was clever as his fences, jumped beautifully and I'll be nervously waiting over the next few days to make sure he's come out of his race well.
        Last edited by charlie; 5 February 2023, 08:03 AM.

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        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

          Pretty good


          Am I wrong though?
          Well, I do suspect PT will get the choice, and he would be daft to pick a different horse, so in that regard I think you are.
          But I was just feeling a bit of sympathy for DJ….. I’m a sentimental old chap at times.
          Personally think it would serve PT right if the owners took the approach……. You didn’t want him yesterday, so fuck you at Cheltenham.
          But they won’t , trainer will decide.

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          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

            That is absolutely fucking nonsense.


            Supreme winner Appreciate It, written off?!







            Embarassing. Love you both obv.... but entertain me
            Not really sure how serious you are with all this Supreme stuff with AI?
            If he did that performance and then went nov chasing following season, then yes definitely understand it, but that’s not the case here.
            He had problems and then ran in a poor (imo)CHurdle.
            Did ad well as could be expected in that I think.
            Then this season he’s looked ok in his two pretty much school rounds, and then found wanting when facing the best in Ireland.
            So imo, he’s not a horse that can be judged on how he is as a horse now, on what he did in the Supreme.

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            • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

              Not really sure how serious you are with all this Supreme stuff with AI?
              If he did that performance and then went nov chasing following season, then yes definitely understand it, but that’s not the case here.
              He had problems and then ran in a poor (imo)CHurdle.
              Did ad well as could be expected in that I think.
              Then this season he’s looked ok in his two pretty much school rounds, and then found wanting when facing the best in Ireland.
              So imo, he’s not a horse that can be judged on how he is as a horse now, on what he did in the Supreme.
              A poor supreme at that. Only one top horse has come out of it and that one fell in the race. The other 6 horses have won 7 races between them in the 2 years since the race.

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              • Gerri Colombe has everything you want in a staying chaser, I love watching him In action, a lot of question marks put firmly to bed yesterday, gewon Gerri boy!

                & El Fabiolo will beat Jonbon in March, I’m sure if it…

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                • Originally posted by SeanRock View Post
                  Gerri Colombe has everything you want in a staying chaser, I love watching him In action, a lot of question marks put firmly to bed yesterday, gewon Gerri boy!

                  & El Fabiolo will beat Jonbon in March, I’m sure if it…
                  Not at all sure how anyone could be so confident re EF and Jonbon.
                  They have raced against each other once, over hurdles at the end of the season.
                  No collateral form over fences to go on. Unless I’ve missed something?
                  If I had to pick one now I would go for Jonbon, just because I think he’s more straightforward in his travelling during a race and I’ve been slightly more impressed with his jumping thus far, but I do acknowledge that EF has now gone deeper.
                  Its a fascinating race and to me it’s simply a case of looking forward to it and hope that any gut feeling proves correct.

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                  • Originally posted by charlie View Post
                    That really was a monster performance from EF. Lift him out the race and the main protagonists are fighting out the finish, and he's beaten them by 10L. Thats an RPR in the 170's performance and he's achieved that still making mistakes (4th last). I hated seeing Appreciate It beaten but loved what EF did. Brilliant seeing DD showed up too, that was needed.

                    Today will be fascinating with a view to the Turners. The race now looks a more likely destination for Appreciate It and David Mullins said he'd be shocked if Sir Gerhard ended up anywhere else. I never rated Mighty Potter over hurdles and was heavily critical on debut, but that performance last time out was absolute mustard IMO. Pure class. I think he'll be very hard to beat today and both Willies runners will be racing today with a view to going up the BANC.

                    Loved what Gerri did yesterday. He's been in the book for a while now and the BANC is looking prime for him. Yesterday was not ideal. The ground could have been softer and the trip could have been longer, but he ground it out. He was clever as his fences, jumped beautifully and I'll be nervously waiting over the next few days to make sure he's come out of his race well.
                    What’s your thoughts on the trip today for Mighty Potter? Campaigned over 2 miles in his novice hurdling last year and won this year over 2m3f with todays now at 2m5

                    willie throwing JDB in the CH suggests he rates him and first performance this year to my untrained eye looked a more natural jumper vs. Mighty Potter who has jumped well but thrown in the odd mistake (granted this expected for novices)

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                    • Originally posted by Native River View Post

                      City Chief only has NHC entry unfortunately
                      The Donnellys have GDM and Ramillies too sadly, my guess is at least one of them will be Kim Muir or Ultima bound.
                      I think City Chief was 135 before yesterday, probably 143 now, gives them all the options...

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                      • Made me laugh reading through all the posts last night this morning. Kevloaf really has a soft spot for AI!

                        I got the impression that Danny Mullins in an interview yesterday thought that he had gone too quick on DD in the first mile so I wouldn't give up on him for the Arkle, especially as it is over a slightly shorter trip. ElFab was impressive though wasn't he? Still not looking mustard with his jumping but he has got a serious engine. I would really love a Jonbon win but it's now very hard to call imo.

                        I really would love to see Mighty Potter put in a stand out performance today and I think he can. He's got the beating of GDM who Townend has chosen to ride over JDB which is surprising unless there's another reason I'm not aware of? Still think JDB could be anything so really looking forward to this race.

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                        • Originally posted by YoungHustler View Post
                          MHe's got the beating of GDM who Townend has chosen to ride over JDB which is surprising unless there's another reason I'm not aware of? Still think JDB could be anything so really looking forward to this race.
                          Suppose GdM is tried and tested, and has won a G1. JdB hasn't and is possibly more of an unknown.

                          It isn't much of a negative anyway considering Paul has already shown during the weekend he doesn't get it right all the time.

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                          • The concern for me is the mark the Irish Arkle could leave on those that run as Danny went way too fast on DD whereas Jonbon will have a much easier race.

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                            • Originally posted by HoldenTheReins View Post
                              The concern for me is the mark the Irish Arkle could leave on those that run as Danny went way too fast on DD whereas Jonbon will have a much easier race.
                              Would rather a horse that has had a good hard battle than one thats been strolling around beating Hcappers.

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                              • Originally posted by HoldenTheReins View Post
                                The concern for me is the mark the Irish Arkle could leave on those that run as Danny went way too fast on DD whereas Jonbon will have a much easier race.
                                Totally agree. That race yesterday was really brutal. No prisoners taken. Plenty will be very stiff and sore today. We will just have to hope they are ok and that their races weren't left at Leopardstown yesterday.

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