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2023 Novice Chasers
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Would Willie rather win the NHC or the BANC with GDM ? With both Minella Cocooner and Classic Getaway out of the equation, I don't see anything better than GDM re Willies Staying chasers unless of course JDB can improve and step up in distance. Would he leave himself with a Ramillies or Kilcruit perhaps and just realistically hope for places in the BANC or do we think he would want a horse in the race with a proper winning chance like GDM but sacrifice a big chance of winning a lesser race ? Proper conundrum.
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Originally posted by Lobos View PostWould Willie rather win the NHC or the BANC with GDM ? With both Minella Cocooner and Classic Getaway out of the equation, I don't see anything better than GDM re Willies Staying chasers unless of course JDB can improve and step up in distance. Would he leave himself with a Ramillies or Kilcruit perhaps and just realistically hope for places in the BANC or do we think he would want a horse in the race with a proper winning chance like GDM but sacrifice a big chance of winning a lesser race ? Proper conundrum.
"He was beaten in a G1 novice and he got beat in the Brown Advisory last year, he's maybe shown he's not quite that level.
"I'll be hoping that Willie will see the light and send him towards the National Hunt Chase!"
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Originally posted by Lobos View PostWould Willie rather win the NHC or the BANC with GDM ? With both Minella Cocooner and Classic Getaway out of the equation, I don't see anything better than GDM re Willies Staying chasers unless of course JDB can improve and step up in distance. Would he leave himself with a Ramillies or Kilcruit perhaps and just realistically hope for places in the BANC or do we think he would want a horse in the race with a proper winning chance like GDM but sacrifice a big chance of winning a lesser race ? Proper conundrum.
GDM and Capodanno were both beaten before March convincingly whereas Stattler was unbeaten in his chase campaign.
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Originally posted by darlojim View Post
Was Stattler not considered a superior horse to both Gaillard and Capodanno pre fez last year? I'd say he would have been personally :/.
GDM and Capodanno were both beaten before March convincingly whereas Stattler was unbeaten in his chase campaign.
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Originally posted by The Giant Bolster View Post
Good point. I guess though the BANC was looking very strong last season. Take on L'Homme Presse, Ahoy Senor and Bravemansgame or Run Wild Fred. This season it's Thyme Hill, The Real Whacker and Gerri Colombe (who might not go there).
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Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View PostAppreciate It pushed out for the Arkle again by PP. Shortening for the longer race at the DRF. Looks like that's currently the plan and if he wins in Ireland, you'd have to say he will be Turners bound. Im starting to think the BANC is more likely than the Arkle for him!
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Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View PostAppreciate It pushed out for the Arkle again by PP. Shortening for the longer race at the DRF. Looks like that's currently the plan and if he wins in Ireland, you'd have to say he will be Turners bound. Im starting to think the BANC is more likely than the Arkle for him!
2024 gold cup bid
His past may be 2m.. but I don’t think his future is
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Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View PostAppreciate It pushed out for the Arkle again by PP. Shortening for the longer race at the DRF. Looks like that's currently the plan and if he wins in Ireland, you'd have to say he will be Turners bound. Im starting to think the BANC is more likely than the Arkle for him!
I really don't know how Sir Gerhard is going to fit into this atm. Is he going to be saved for Aintree and Punchestown? Surely the most likely novice chase he will go for is the Turners and I can't see him and Appreciate It running in the same race
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Originally posted by Lobos View PostSir G could be the surprise Willie BANC package. He is entered.
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Originally posted by Quevega View PostSit G most likely for arkle IMO
Willie has never sent a winner of the Ballymore to the Arkle and the only winner he's had that has gone back down in trip at the festival is Faugheen. He was a freak, and Sir Gerhard is definitely not in the same mould as him, IMO.
His performance in the Ballymore looked more one of a stayer than anything else, too, to my eye. I would say Turners or further and the Arkle would be the last of the Novice Chase races he'd end up in (NH Chase excluded).
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