2023 Novice Hurdlers

[Lobos]

I think Munir was in Mullins yard today checking up on a few of their horses, posted a video on his twitter of El Fabiolo on the gallops. Might be no accident the price drifted..
https://twitter.com/simon_munir/stat...C_sp7-yYA&s=19

Looks really slow doesn't he. Should be in the NHC based on that !

[Exar Essay]

I think Munir was in Mullins yard today checking up on a few of their horses, posted a video on his twitter of El Fabiolo on the gallops. Might be no accident the price drifted..
https://twitter.com/simon_munir/stat...C_sp7-yYA&s=19

Interesting. Maybe something was said or people have taken 2 and 2 and got 22.

ComplyOrDie Lobos Sorry, when I said decision made, I meant a more certain view offered by WIllie perhaps. As you rightly say, there will be no decision until at least DRF, and probably even decs.

[darlojim]

I'd say its a combination of Dave Jennings saying the vibe he got from Willie when speaking to him was that impaire would go up in trip and Ruby also tipping him as the Ballymore winner

[ComplyOrDie]

I'd say its a combination of Dave Jennings saying the vibe he got from Willie when speaking to him was that impaire would go up in trip and Ruby also tipping him as the Ballymore winner

All the vibes, maybe with the exception of Willie mentioning the Supreme in a breath, are that IEP goes up in trip.

Willie said he needs go up to be seen at his best, Ruby has put him up for the Ballymore and Anthony Bromley was hesitant when asked about the Supreme.

His performances have led to me believing it's Ballymore or nothing for him now, the exchanges are leaning that way now too.

For me there is little doubt, however, this is Willie Mullins, so I could understand why there would be plenty of hesitation taking it as a given.

[darlojim]

All the vibes, maybe with the exception of Willie mentioning the Supreme in a breath, are that IEP goes up in trip.

Willie said he needs go up to be seen at his best, Ruby has put him up for the Ballymore and Anthony Bromley was hesitant when asked about the Supreme.

His performances have led to me believing it's Ballymore or nothing for him now, the exchanges are leaning that way now too.

For me there is little doubt, however, this is Willie Mullins, so I could understand why there would be plenty of hesitation taking it as a given.

Oh yeah I wasn't saying it as if they were the only reasons, FWIW I think (and kind of hope!) he goes to the Ballymore. Easier race for him I think and have him covered for both, at pretty nice odds, so let's just see!

We aren't going to know until the Sunday prior are we

[HesTheOne]

Surprised given the knowledge of some on here with PTP that not been much mention(unless I've missed it) of Johnnywho who was due out this week prior to the cold snap. Not taken the Ptp win literally(2nd not seen but also with Jonjo,3rd Hermes Allen) but this sort of horse would usually get a mention with what the 3rd has gone on to do. Anyone know much about him as minimal about him in Jonjo stable tour.

I’ve been banging his drum in the under the radar in the members section, the P2P experts seamed to think a lot of him from that autumn 21 group but reading between the lines he must not have been easy to get out racing.. but hasn’t stopped me having a nibble at his fat prices anyway..


Now he’s made it to the novices thread for the lurkers am sure he’ll feature in a podcast tomorrow and be smashed in

[Jrow]

The fact Johnnwho is with Jonjo is off putting. Id expect he would be sending his best to Henderson in the UK.

[HesTheOne]

The fact Johnnwho is with Jonjo is off putting. Id expect he would be sending his best to Henderson in the UK.

Yea it really is, not that Henderson has done much with his novice geldings this year either but guessing it’s the relationship between JP and JJ, that he throws him a big purchase now and again

[Saxon Warrior]

HRI official rating update today

Gaelic Warrior 143 (+9lb)

for yesterdays win.

[charlie]

HRI official rating update today

Gaelic Warrior 143 (+9lb)

for yesterdays win.

Hopefully goes Ballymore given he's achieved that barely trying.

[Carnage at Taunton]

HRI official rating update today

Gaelic Warrior 143 (+9lb)

for yesterdays win.

How accurate do we think that is?

[Istabraq]

HRI official rating update today

Gaelic Warrior 143 (+9lb)

for yesterdays win.

I noticed he hasn't yet been given an RPR for Clonmel, where do you think that'll likely be SW ?

[Istabraq]

Hopefully goes Ballymore given he's achieved that barely trying.

They seem set on the Betfair Hurdle off 149 so clearly think the UK mark is winnable, and whatever happens at Newbury the handicapper isn't dropping him.

I find it hard to understand why there aren't conversations between the two handicappers.
archie said a while back there would be greater discussion between the two but (from memory) this would only be during the Summer and would only be for the top 20/50 rated horses.
If he wins the Betfair hurdle his UK mark will be min 155 and very possibly near 160...

[ComplyOrDie]

Fair bit of movement for the Flutter Entertainment lot today in the Supreme & Ballymore markets, also some movement in the novice chase markets too.

[Outlaw]

They seem set on the Betfair Hurdle off 149 so clearly think the UK mark is winnable, and whatever happens at Newbury the handicapper isn't dropping him.

I find it hard to understand why there aren't conversations between the two handicappers.
archie said a while back there would be greater discussion between the two but (from memory) this would only be during the Summer and would only be for the top 20/50 rated horses.
If he wins the Betfair hurdle his UK mark will be min 155 and very possibly near 160...

Is there any quotes or pieces that said they intend to actually go to Newbury with him ?