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2023 Novice Hurdlers

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    • Originally posted by charlie View Post

      Tough question. 148 maybe. Who knows. BMG was given 154 for beating 147 rated Star Gate 10L. I just don't think the form is worth much, but then I do always say the form matters less when wins are that easy, so perhaps I'm being unfair.
      Time will tell if you are being unfair I guess.
      Right now I have a feeling you are, as he’s done nowt wrong, jumped and traveled well on different ground conditions and done it easily. Very hard to gauge his ceiling, and I would think difficult to get an accurate rating.

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      • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

        Time will tell if you are being unfair I guess.
        Right now I have a feeling you are, as he’s done nowt wrong, jumped and traveled well on different ground conditions and done it easily. Very hard to gauge his ceiling, and I would think difficult to get an accurate rating.
        I am probably being a little unfair as I don't particularly like Paul Nicholls runners at Cheltenham.

        Hermes Allen could very well be the real deal and if he is, I am happy being wrong based on the facts we have now,

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        • QDP is a big whopper of a horse. I’ve got some bits on him this season but don’t think I’ll be excited until next year and fences. Those hurdles were an inconvenience to him.

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          • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post
            QDP is a big whopper of a horse.
            He looked massive, didn't he?

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            • Hated every minute of that. I was impressed. Wants to go left too. One for the future definitely.

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              • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                He looked massive, didn't he?
                I remember when they purchased him they said he was more like a Pointer than a typical French type. They weren’t wrong and he’s probably grown a fair bit since.

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                • 2nd horse there would be interesting next time up in trip

                  Nice tender introduction

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                  • He might not be good enough but looks like all he does is stay does weveallbeencaught. Not sure why twister didn’t grab the rail either but if he goes Albert Bartlett I think he has a chance. My worry is Theyl go ballymore and he has zero chance in that

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                    • Originally posted by Olliemagern View Post
                      He might not be good enough but looks like all he does is stay does weveallbeencaught. Not sure why twister didn’t grab the rail either but if he goes Albert Bartlett I think he has a chance. My worry is Theyl go ballymore and he has zero chance in that
                      He’s got well beat by HA, so have to think AB more likely?

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                      • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                        He’s got well beat by HA, so have to think AB more likely?
                        You’d certainly hope so. Have to see if there’s any quotes after the race

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                        • Originally posted by Olliemagern View Post
                          He might not be good enough but looks like all he does is stay does weveallbeencaught. Not sure why twister didn’t grab the rail either but if he goes Albert Bartlett I think he has a chance. My worry is Theyl go ballymore and he has zero chance in that
                          I don't think they will, and he would have no chance I agree.
                          They were miles clear of the third and the second could easily be decent.
                          Franks Hermes Allen form.
                          And he looked like he'd keep battling till his heart gave out, I liked the way he went again when the other one got the rail and closed.

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                          • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                            He’s got well beat by HA, so have to think AB more likely?
                            They compare him with Imperial Commander who went Ballymore then up to 3m at Aintree so possibly the same race plan.

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                            • Did anybody hear PT after QDPs race. I couldn’t get sound from rtv extra

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                              • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post
                                Did anybody hear PT after QDPs race. I couldn’t get sound from rtv extra
                                Was pleased with him. Said he was idle but responded eventually. When asked said he thought he would’ve won further.

                                FYI - if you are watching on YouTube, you can rewind the live coverage on RTV.

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