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2023 Novice Hurdlers

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  • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post

    I do like him alot, but not for the supreme, for the ballymore. I'd like to think goshens performance the other day has opened gary moores eyes to authorised progenies stamina attributes.
    I'd expect to see him in the tolworth. but beating luccia over 2miles will be an extremely difficult task and with Henderson confirming that as her target, could this have had an effect?
    I'm not a user of exchanges and would be interested to know what you've noticed, weak for supreme? for ballymore? or for both?

    Both of them

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    • Originally posted by charlie View Post

      25/1 is probably about right, but I think it makes sense to wait with horses trained by smaller yards. Willie and Nicky have a stranglehold on the race and their horses (rightly or wrongly) are always going to be priced much much shorter. Post Kempton connections name checked Aintree then talked about handicaps (name checked the Betfair Hurdle) as a potential target, so you wouldn't be sure he goes Supreme like some of others. Even if he were to win the Betfair Hurdle (and I would back him) I doubt he'd go shorter than 10/1 for a Supreme and at that point I'd be happy to pull the trigger if it is the target, rather than backing now at 25/1 and not being sure. It might actually make more sense to back him for the betfair hurdle and roll up winnings on new supreme price.
      Picked up Kealy on this(mentions Betfair hurdle where he’d send him). Needs another run(4 as of this season) which you could fit in, just will give the capper another opportunity to rise him again(see what he does next week first).

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      • Originally posted by Outlaw View Post

        Picked up Kealy on this(mentions Betfair hurdle where he’d send him). Needs another run(4 as of this season) which you could fit in, just will give the capper another opportunity to rise him again(see what he does next week first).
        Good point!

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        • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

          Both of them
          Yeah I'm not sure, maybe somebody has taken a stance that he's simply not good enough. I've had a look this morning and it appears I could back him for the ballymore @46 for ?18? is that correct?

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          • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post

            Yeah I'm not sure, maybe somebody has taken a stance that he's simply not good enough. I've had a look this morning and it appears I could back him for the ballymore @46 for ?18? is that correct?
            Probably, I've not looked this morning.
            was available at 100+ to 1
            all small amounts though so like you say, he's not a fashionable one and people may just be taking him on for small amounts.

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            • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

              Probably, I've not looked this morning.
              was available at 100+ to 1
              all small amounts though so like you say, he's not a fashionable one and people may just be taking him on for small amounts.
              It's funny, our conversation about scriptwriter a while back prompted me to set up a william hill account, best decision I have made this season and now i'm considering setting up an exchange account, having had a browse for an hour this morning i'm quite taken aback at some prices available on there

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              • Jet Powered declared on Saturday. Inneston looks like he will take him on. Klitschko also declared.

                The Challow looks a decent contest to see how good Hermes Allen actually is. Joyeux Machin coming over from Ireland.

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                • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post
                  Jet Powered declared on Saturday. Inneston looks like he will take him on. Klitschko also declared.

                  The Challow looks a decent contest to see how good Hermes Allen actually is. Joyeux Machin coming over from Ireland.
                  Palace Boy also looked reasonable on debut. Could be a decent little contest for Jet Powered to prove his worth.

                  I’m a big fan of Hermes Allen. I saw Posh Josh tweeted that BMG would win the King George after he won the Challow. I’d say the same for Hermes Allen as he’ll be a better chaser than hurdler and three miles will be where he’s best in the future.

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                  • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post
                    Jet Powered declared on Saturday. Inneston looks like he will take him on. Klitschko also declared.

                    The Challow looks a decent contest to see how good Hermes Allen actually is. Joyeux Machin coming over from Ireland.
                    Loving the Jet Powered declaration. Decent opposition. Let's see if he's the best of the English. Hoping for a huge performance to put it up to Facile. We need these match ups. Fingers crossed.

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                    • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post

                      It's funny, our conversation about scriptwriter a while back prompted me to set up a william hill account, best decision I have made this season and now i'm considering setting up an exchange account, having had a browse for an hour this morning i'm quite taken aback at some prices available on there
                      I don’t know how anyone does ante post betting without a Betfair account, it’s a must have!

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                      • Originally posted by Kautostar View Post

                        I don’t know how anyone does ante post betting without a Betfair account, it’s a must have!
                        Never had a single On line account in 42 years betting !!

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                        • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                          Never had a single On line account in 42 years betting !!
                          You’re missing out my friend. Betfair is definitely a handy account to have

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                          • ….Tag Man looks to be getting backed for the next race at Leop. I know he has been highlighted for AB on here.

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                            • Embassy Gardens also into 3/1 from 11/2

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                              • Crikey. Maybe that’s why Barry Connell is so certain Marine Nationale heads to the Supreme!

                                Edit: PP go 20/1 for the Ballymore. That’s very fair.

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