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Also his answer to the question who were his most exciting novices in the same blog:
"We have some beautiful novices going forward and quite a few to come out yet so it’s difficult to single one individual out, in fact it’s also unfair, but the likes of Jet Powered would come to mind and I must admit I was quite impressed with Attacca at Cheltenham last week because I didn’t think he’d be that high up the rankings at the start of the season.
Someone also asked about Luccia, and she would certainly fit into the above category. At this stage there’s not many better than her. She was forced to miss Ascot and I don’t know where she’ll go next but I’ve got a few things pencilled in."
AS we are all having to endure an enforced mid season break owing to this dreadful cold snap I am very happy to answer some of the questions you posed...
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Also his answer to the question who were his most exciting novices in the same blog:
"We have some beautiful novices going forward and quite a few to come out yet so it’s difficult to single one individual out, in fact it’s also unfair, but the likes of Jet Powered would come to mind and I must admit I was quite impressed with Attacca at Cheltenham last week because I didn’t think he’d be that high up the rankings at the start of the season.
Someone also asked about Luccia, and she would certainly fit into the above category. At this stage there’s not many better than her. She was forced to miss Ascot and I don’t know where she’ll go next but I’ve got a few things pencilled in."
Has anything come out about Impose Toi for Henderson owned by JP? Was given a positive mention in his stable tour and OJA but not seen any entries so far
He did have entries i think for over 2 and half, didn’t happen likely with the weather. Was on my radar as I thought he looked good in France. Fact he didn’t run in any of the 2m or even have entries he must not be near top the pile of novice hurdles for NH.
I'm really hoping Luccia doesn't end up Supreme bound if she easily wins the Tolworth. I don't think she will. Epatante was Hendo's best novice in 2019 and she still went to the Mares novice. I also think he won't want her to face FV if he continues to show how good he is and would prefer an easier chance of winning the Mares novice.
I cashed out on Between Waters when she kept on getting entered for 2m4+ races.
I'd be fairly sure Luccia gets only the one entry at Cheltenham, Mares Novice Hurdle.
The Tolworth I'd imagine is only being considered because the timing works well for her and of course it's a track she seemed to love when hacking up in that bumper last season.
I'd be shocked if the Supreme was even considered...
He did have entries i think for over 2 and half, didn’t happen likely with the weather. Was on my radar as I thought he looked good in France. Fact he didn’t run in any of the 2m or even have entries he must not be near top the pile of novice hurdles for NH.
JP handicap awaits..
Is it now four runs for novices to be eligible for the Cheltenham handicaps? If so, any novice that hasn’t seen the track already is unlikely to be running in a handicap this season.
I'd be fairly sure Luccia gets only the one entry at Cheltenham, Mares Novice Hurdle.
The Tolworth I'd imagine is only being considered because the timing works well for her and of course it's a track she seemed to love when hacking up in that bumper last season.
I'd be shocked if the Supreme was even considered...
If she wins a grade 1 Tolworth which is worth twice as much as the mares novice hurdle (grade 2).
You think they'll not consider the supreme ?
There's a lot of things to consider of course - all the usual.
But I'd be sure they'd enter her.
And look at how both races are shaping up.
If she runs against the Moore horse in the Tolworth they'll also have a tenuous form line with FV also.
The only reason they wouldn't would be the owners having really serious money down for the mares novice and unable to lay it off.
But by this time they'd be 37K better off anyway.
Epatante was campaigned in much lower grade races in her novice year, little shitty events worth 4k. Against bobar. YoungHustler
He’s ran 2 or 3 in the MNH before, given he has a few this year he can do it again.
Luccia owners don’t seam to have any others. Best win beyond her was a grade 3 handicap at Ascot in Jan-18.
If she was your best chance of your first winner as a owner - would you send her down the supreme with a pack of geldings going a million miles an hour?
Epatante was campaigned in much lower grade races in her novice year, little shitty events worth 4k. Against bobar. YoungHustler
Agreed on how she was campaigned but she was still the best 2m novice the yard had in 2019. I seem to remember that she was the stables banker of the meeting and she just didn't run her race.
If she wins a grade 1 Tolworth which is worth twice as much as the mares novice hurdle (grade 2).
You think they'll not consider the supreme ?
Running her in a Supreme would be such an unlike Hendo thing to do and he appears to have others for that, Jet Powered amongst them, plus the prospect of taking on Facile Vega can't be over appealing with an inexperienced mare.
It's only a hunch but knowing how Hendo looks after his horses I would imagine the only reason the Tolworth has been mentioned is because of her liking for Sandown.
Personally I don't think they'd have any issues dropping to a G2 if they won the G1 Tolworth, the chances are the Tolworth will be a 5/6 runner affair of UK trained horses only, and if we're honest the form of any G1 without Irish raiders has to marked down....
Running her in a Supreme would be such an unlike Hendo thing to do and he appears to have others for that, Jet Powered amongst them, and the prospect of taking on Facile Vega.
It's only a hunch but knowing how Hendo looks after his horses I would imagine the only reason the Tolworth has been mentioned is because of her liking for Sandown.
Personally I don't think they'd have any issues dropping to a G2 if they won the G1 Tolworth, the chances are the Tolworth will be a 5/6 runner affair of UK trained horses only, and if we're honest the form of any G1 without Irish raiders has to marked down....
Running her in a Supreme would be such an unlike Hendo thing to do and he appears to have others for that, Jet Powered amongst them, plus the prospect of taking on Facile Vega can't be over appealing with an inexperienced mare.
It's only a hunch but knowing how Hendo looks after his horses I would imagine the only reason the Tolworth has been mentioned is because of her liking for Sandown.
Personally I don't think they'd have any issues dropping to a G2 if they won the G1 Tolworth, the chances are the Tolworth will be a 5/6 runner affair of UK trained horses only, and if we're honest the form of any G1 without Irish raiders has to marked down....
Running a mare in the tolworth is an un Hendo thing to do too I’d say. I can’t remember one but I’m sure somebody will point any out.
Jet powered still has to prove it and if he doesn’t improve a good deal on his next run then he’d be a fair chunk below her if she wins the tolworth. All the others that have been mentioned have yet to be seen, some have entries over further and so on, I cant remember the last time Hendo didn’t run his best novice hurdler in the supreme. Perhaps that’s just an alternative way to look at it. Maybe 2012 but darlan was no mug. So that would be an un Hendo like thing to do also I’d say.
In terms of prestige I’d say the tolworth trumps the mnh. I’d also say finishing second in a supreme would be a bigger achievement than winning a mnh. There can’t be much difference in prize money either I’d imagine? So if it’s avoiding FV that folks are pinning their hat on I’m not entirely convinced by that one.
Fair enough if the owners have had a shit load on but is this fact or guesswork...it would be nice if somebody can state for sure otherwise it’s meaningless in this debate imo
She’d already have her grade 1 for winning the tolworth and would then be the leading supreme contender for the UK at that point. It is not inconceivable folks.
Despite everything I have posted I would guess that it would still be 60/40 in favour of the mnh if she won the tolworth but it’s just that ....a guess....that’s because I am not in the know, I do not know the owners, i have no connection with the yard and I have no information about bets placed etc but the dogmatism of some is unwise imo.
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