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I think with RPR's it's a personal choice how much these will guide decisions.
I rarely take them into account, but will note them and on occasions it will have some influence. Mainly just for the Ultima though (merry xmas doctorwu )
Any rating based partially on timings is going to be sketchy in certain circumstances and should be taken as such IMO.
The variables that go into an eventual final time are immense, so it's rarely close to exacting.
And the tendency for the Racing Post guys to re visit ratings also grates with me a little.
Ultimately it is human's that apply the rules/ratings and this will often include some form of opinion bias as well.
The recent Royal Bond is a good example of when the ratings should have been treated with caution IMO as the ratings acheived were in maiden hurdles for some of the participants and there is a natural tendency to upgrade RPR's according to class, so any that had already ran in listed or graded races would likely be higher - But until you've had the chance to operate at a higher level then you're unlikely to be rated as such. If your maiden just happens to be run steadily then you're not gonna get a high rating.
Prior to Royal Bond -
Marine Nationale 125
Irish Point 121
Ashroe Diamond 116
Champ Kiely 142
Just on this race, I thought it was run at near Championship pace so rate the form quite highly.
Champ Kiely may improve for further in time and probably wasn't helped with his slightly keen approach on the pace, however, there was never too much between the pack and so the 2 that pulled clear need marking up IMO, and Champ Kiely has now acheived 138 142 138 in his last 3 starts so is that his level ???
I rarely take them into account, but will note them and on occasions it will have some influence. Mainly just for the Ultima though (merry xmas doctorwu )
Any rating based partially on timings is going to be sketchy in certain circumstances and should be taken as such IMO.
The variables that go into an eventual final time are immense, so it's rarely close to exacting.
And the tendency for the Racing Post guys to re visit ratings also grates with me a little.
Ultimately it is human's that apply the rules/ratings and this will often include some form of opinion bias as well.
The recent Royal Bond is a good example of when the ratings should have been treated with caution IMO as the ratings acheived were in maiden hurdles for some of the participants and there is a natural tendency to upgrade RPR's according to class, so any that had already ran in listed or graded races would likely be higher - But until you've had the chance to operate at a higher level then you're unlikely to be rated as such. If your maiden just happens to be run steadily then you're not gonna get a high rating.
Prior to Royal Bond -
Marine Nationale 125
Irish Point 121
Ashroe Diamond 116
Champ Kiely 142
Just on this race, I thought it was run at near Championship pace so rate the form quite highly.
Champ Kiely may improve for further in time and probably wasn't helped with his slightly keen approach on the pace, however, there was never too much between the pack and so the 2 that pulled clear need marking up IMO, and Champ Kiely has now acheived 138 142 138 in his last 3 starts so is that his level ???
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