2023 Novice Hurdlers

[JackieMoon33]

I think it's probably something to do with avoiding Willie's !.
I'd imagine Gordon and other's has them readier earlier most of the time to avoid Willie's and pick up some early season maidens and minor graded races. Especially if the horses aren't too ground dependent.
Basically running scared of Willie's until the Big Willie runners are unleashed in late November/December.
Then you may also have a fitness or experience edge by this stage, to take on Willie's big ones.

All you were missing from that is ‘Willie’s waiting for it to turn soft’.

[Atlantic Viking]

I think it's probably something to do with avoiding Willie's !.
Basically running scared of Willie's

Sounds a lot like my time at boarding school.

[That Horse]

Is there a Kenneth Williams emoji?

[Kevloaf]

Marine Nationale declared for the 2m maiden at Punchestown on Wednesday.

OOooh I need to sort my tracker out for all these billions of novice hurdlers mentioned as I'm scanning through


You like this one CoD? Might need a nudge from you Wednesday morning or I'll forget

[ComplyOrDie]

OOooh I need to sort my tracker out for all these billions of novice hurdlers mentioned as I'm scanning through


You like this one CoD? Might need a nudge from you Wednesday morning or I'll forget

He's not top of my list tbh mate. I've backed him for any race and Ballymore only, at this stage.

I think other members of the forum are sweeter on him than myself, but still one to get on the team

[Benjy23]

Marine National is 2/5 tomorrow! Be looking for a very comfortable win.

[DenmanSacre]

Marine National is 2/5 tomorrow! Be looking for a very comfortable win.

I was wondering what the bookies would open eith. The odds forecast on Sporting Life had Santonito at 6/4 and Marine Nationale at 7/4 last night. Consistently awful with their forecasts where they may as well not bother.

[Kevloaf]

Crickey, I know Santonito wasn't dining at the top table in bumpers, but form looked solid enough didn't it!

Hasn't stopped me backing the hype train but this might serve as an early season reminder as to sit on my hands

[JackieMoon33]

Crickey, I know Santonito wasn't dining at the top table in bumpers, but form looked solid enough didn't it!

Hasn't stopped me backing the hype train but this might serve as an early season reminder as to sit on my hands

Santonito kept bumping into above average horses to be fair and he never lost by much and always went down fighting. Up in trip over hurdles and he could improve a fair bit. He was also a four year old store so very inexperienced.

[Kevloaf]

Santonito kept bumping into above average horses to be fair and he never lost by much and always went down fighting. Up in trip over hurdles and he could improve a fair bit. He was also a four year old store so very inexperienced.

He's on my Albert Bartlett shortlist (not backed) ... definitely not one to rush in to, intersting to see how he takes to them and if he looks natural.

Hve you given your thoughts anywhere JM on novice hurdlers... will give that a read if so

[JackieMoon33]

I put some early thoughts here

https://www.fatjockey.com/forum/fat-jockey-horse-racing-forum/cheltenham-festival-2021/369572-cheltenham-2023-early-fancies?p=369895#post369895

Right now, if I was backing three using my approach (+12/1) I’d probably land on the following:

Supreme
Imagine
Quais De Paris
Jet Powered

Ballymore
An Tobar
Fact To File
Gaelic Warrior

Albert Bartlett
Rath Gaul Boy
Tag Man
Icare D’aubrelle (struggling to decide on his trip)

Triumph
Risk Belle
Bo Zenith
tbc

Others
Got Glory - Mares Novice Hurdle
Saint Felicien - Turners Novice Chase
Irish Point - novice hurdle but undecided

[ComplyOrDie]

Like a lot of them JackieMoon33

Fact To File fascinates me. I was initally thinking he'd be one for a handicap, but now you need 4 runs to get a mark for them this may force their hand to go down the graded route. He's one I'd like to see out sooner rather than later as I have plans for his potential handicap target should that be the case.

[Kevloaf]

I put some early thoughts here

https://www.fatjockey.com/forum/fat-jockey-horse-racing-forum/cheltenham-festival-2021/369572-cheltenham-2023-early-fancies?p=369895#post369895

Right now, if I was backing three using my approach (+12/1) I’d probably land on the following:

Supreme
Imagine
Quais De Paris
Jet Powered

Ballymore
An Tobar
Fact To File
Gaelic Warrior

Albert Bartlett
Rath Gaul Boy
Tag Man
Icare D’aubrelle (struggling to decide on his trip)

Triumph
Risk Belle
Bo Zenith
tbc

Others
Got Glory - Mares Novice Hurdle
Saint Felicien - Turners Novice Chase
Irish Point - novice hurdle but undecided

Excellent. Thanks Sir.

[JackieMoon33]

Like a lot of them JackieMoon33

Fact To File fascinates me. I was initally thinking he'd be one for a handicap, but now you need 4 runs to get a mark for them this may force their hand to go down the graded route. He's one I'd like to see out sooner rather than later as I have plans for his potential handicap target should that be the case.

I’m hoping he’s better than a handicapper. It’s tough to know given the colours, but I sometimes think that can be a bluff and we forget JP wants runners in those big races.

[JackieMoon33]

Excellent. Thanks Sir.

I’ve got more detailed notes on them all of you need some substance.