2023 Novice Hurdlers

[CJW]

Bit early for a without market in the supreme, but pp/bf/sb entertaining it haha

[darlojim]

Daryl Jacob:

I also sat on Impaire Et Passe, he worked really nicely. He seems to be going well and could make his debut at Naas on Tuesday, while he’ll have options at Christmas, too.

He’s definitely up there in the pecking order and there is a lovely horse called Dark Raven, as well, who won a couple of bumpers last spring.

He was out the other morning, we’re hoping he’s got a good engine and he could be quite exciting, so look out for his entries in novice hurdles soon.


Nice to see a positive word on Impaire Et Passe

[Hurricane fly]

Daryl Jacob:

I also sat on Impaire Et Passe, he worked really nicely. He seems to be going well and could make his debut at Naas on Tuesday, while he’ll have options at Christmas, too.

He’s definitely up there in the pecking order and there is a lovely horse called Dark Raven, as well, who won a couple of bumpers last spring.

He was out the other morning, we’re hoping he’s got a good engine and he could be quite exciting, so look out for his entries in novice hurdles soon.

Happy to see Dark Raven is alive and well

[JackieMoon33]

Happy to see Dark Raven is alive and well

Dark Raven had an entry a few weeks back. I think it was over an intermediate trip of memory serves me right.

[NeptuneByANose]

That is an almighty drift on Invictus Machin from about 8/5 second favourite overnight to 7/1+ at the off in a 4 runner affair. Not sure the run screamed that he was showing his true ability, to put it nicely. Outpaced and beaten by a 500/1 shot when the race got serious after they went what looked a crawl at times. A bit dodgy, that.

[Brooksie]

That is an almighty drift on Invictus Machin from about 8/5 second favourite overnight to 7/1+ at the off in a 4 runner affair. Not sure the run screamed that he was showing his true ability, to put it nicely. Outpaced and beaten by a 500/1 shot when the race got serious after they went what looked a crawl at times. A bit dodgy, that.

yes something a bit strange there. actually fav with a lot of bookmakers yesterday evening the drift stunk a bit. Although I fancied Itswhatunitesus to do him anyway. A lot to like about the horse, nice attitude jumps ok for the main. That's 3 runs now over hurdles. Will be interesting to see what sort of mark he gets, could easily slip into a county off an attractive mark. One I'll keep an eye on for sure.

[CJW]

Hills taking a stance on Gaelic Warrior going 4s, and biggest price for Grangeclare West..

[Istabraq]

Hills taking a stance on Gaelic Warrior going 4s, and biggest price for Grangeclare West..

I think the way modern bookmaking works means they can take a stand, lay any horse for a restricted amount, then bring their price back in line.
Long gone are the days when someone could go into a shop and hand over 5 grand, all online and monitored/tracked, my guess is if you play you’ll get something like max 50 quid…

[JackieMoon33]

What’s the consensus on Absolute Notions?

I’m not usually a fan of Land Rover bumper winners but I thought his debut was promising, even more so as Gordon didn’t have his fully pumped like other years. I immediately thought that the AB would be the route but then Hiddenvalley Lake laid down a better marker for that race for the same owners.

I’m not totally against him for the Ballymore but my instinct was he’s more of a stayer.

Would the owners throw two darts at the same race or are they more likely to try and split them with Irish Point likely heading down the 2m route.

[ComplyOrDie]

What’s the consensus on Absolute Notions?

I’m not usually a fan of Land Rover bumper winners but I thought his debut was promising, even more so as Gordon didn’t have his fully pumped like other years. I immediately thought that the AB would be the route but then Hiddenvalley Lake laid down a better marker for that race for the same owners.

I’m not totally against him for the Ballymore but my instinct was he’s more of a stayer.

Would the owners throw two darts at the same race or are they more likely to try and split them with Irish Point likely heading down the 2m route.

I'm in the same situation with him. I'm not really sure where he ends up.

I've got him covered for any race for some pts, but not the level I'd want him to be covered at really.

I think Gordon and Robcour are lacking a Ballymore runner, so maybe it will be him.

[Exar Essay]

I'm in the same situation with him. I'm not really sure where he ends up.

I've got him covered for any race for some pts, but not the level I'd want him to be covered at really.

I think Gordon and Robcour are lacking a Ballymore runner, so maybe it will be him.

Do we think Irish Point might step up in trip? Early entry for Lawlors. Perhaps a situation a bit like with the Moran’s horses last year - winner stays on, loser to the pipe?

[JackieMoon33]

Do we think Irish Point might step up in trip? Early entry for Lawlors. Perhaps a situation a bit like with the Moran’s horses last year - winner stays on, loser to the pipe?

I haven’t felt that Irish Point has been needing a step up in trip from his performances so far. I’d be very surprised if he’s not running over 2m again next.

[ComplyOrDie]

Do we think Irish Point might step up in trip? Early entry for Lawlors. Perhaps a situation a bit like with the Moran’s horses last year - winner stays on, loser to the pipe?

I agree with JackieMoon33 in that I don't think Irish Point looks like needing to step up in trip.

FWIW I also don't think he'll be good enough to challenge the principles in the Supreme either though.

[Lostinleith]

Will be interesting to see how Halka Du Tabert goes today in the Mares Maiden Hurdle. As low as 14s with Sky for the MNH, 25s with Hills (27.63-1 with boost).

As an aside, I thought Davy Russell's retirement was 'immediate'. He is shown as being on board today

[Big Bucks]

Pp pushing Deeply Superficial out to 12s is strange in my eyes. Thought she ran really well there and up against some decent ones! Nicely done by inthepocket! Nice wee race that with form too follow going forward?