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2023 Novice Hurdlers

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  • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post
    Could easily be FV Evens, 20/1 bar, for the Supreme, if he does a Con.Hill on his debut.
    He goes there with 111 as his Hurdles form figures and has won like he did in bumpers he will be very short

    Can't see him In the ballymore unless he looks like geating beaten or gets beaten over 2 miles in his 3 runs

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    • Originally posted by AaronLad View Post

      Hi You think jet powered looks good ,play his race simultaneously with the race that halka du tabert won on the same day at borris house,. wow i'm so excited to see what this mare is capable of. Having timed the race sectionals myself, replayed them simultaneously, i'm convinced the official timings do not do her justice.
      Couple this with the favt she raced prominent throughout whereas jet powered was held up for the first half of his race. I can't wait to see her.
      Nice spot, I'll take a look at that race.
      Long bitcoin, long gold, long silver, long g/s opening day Cheltenham Festival

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      • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

        He goes there with 111 as his Hurdles form figures and has won like he did in bumpers he will be very short

        Can't see him In the ballymore unless he looks like geating beaten or gets beaten over 2 miles in his 3 runs
        Yep

        When would he run over 2M4F in a Grade 1?

        There isn't one at the DRF
        There isn't one before Christmas
        There isn't one at Christmas

        The only 2M4F Grade 1 in Ireland before Punchestown at the end of April - is the Lawlors of Naas in early January.

        If Willie has or two quality novices for that then FV won't go over the trip pre-Cheltenham.

        Champ Kiely, Gaelic Warrior maybe.

        We know that Sir G only went to the Ballymore to avoid Con.Hill.

        FV has been 6/1 or better on BFX for at least 2 weeks
        "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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        • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

          Yep

          When would he run over 2M4F in a Grade 1?

          There isn't one at the DRF
          There isn't one before Christmas
          There isn't one at Christmas

          The only 2M4F Grade 1 in Ireland before Punchestown at the end of April - is the Lawlors of Naas in early January.

          If Willie has or two quality novices for that then FV won't go over the trip pre-Cheltenham.

          Champ Kiely, Gaelic Warrior maybe.

          We know that Sir G only went to the Ballymore to avoid Con.Hill.

          FV has been 6/1 or better on BFX for at least 2 weeks
          I'd think he runs Saturday, at Christmas over 2 miles and DRF over 2 miles

          Will hopefully carry all before him, be mullins stand out hurdler and likely go off odds on first race in march

          Sir G went to the ballymore because Willie wanted to split him and dysart dynamo as they didnt think there was too much between them and there was no way dysart would stay 2m4f. If facile is his standout best he's going to run in the Supreme imo.

          I expect American Mike to run on Sunday, then the lawlors of naas, probably win both comfortably and be a short priced fav for the ballymore

          Though I do have a facile vega Supreme, American Mike ballymore and GDC gold cup trixie that was placed before last seasons festival that id very much like to get a run out of. If the first two go in il be watching the gold cup from behind the sofa.
          Last edited by FinalFurlong91; 23 November 2022, 07:37 PM.

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          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

            Unless Constitution Hill part 2 does a Constitution Hill part 1
            Don't worry, the industry has plenty of capacity to cut both of them to disgusting prices

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            • Originally posted by robith View Post

              Don't worry, the industry has plenty of capacity to cut both of them to disgusting prices
              Yep can see them going Evens and 6's

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              • Mullins camp says.....

                'We hope Facile Vega shows the World what he can do'
                Boy that horse must be something else. Sounds like he's going to be Willie's Flag Bearer this season and for many seasons to come. Cant wait until Saturday now.

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                • Originally posted by Myflutters View Post
                  Bookies really tightening up FV for supreme prior to his run on Saturday...
                  It’s absolutely pathetic, to be honest I hope he loses. It sounds really unsporting to say it but you just know it will be construed as some sort of vindication that his ridiculously short antepost price was correct if he wins. (Dread to think what he is cut to if so also)

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                  • It is isn’t it, the market continues to get crazy short as the years go on!
                    14/1 the field without the fav. And none of them have jumped a hurdle!

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                    • Originally posted by ToniC View Post

                      It’s absolutely pathetic, to be honest I hope he loses. It sounds really unsporting to say it but you just know it will be construed as some sort of vindication that his ridiculously short antepost price was correct if he wins. (Dread to think what he is cut to if so also)
                      Agree his price is mental but I don't think many on here would want him to lose!
                      That would put paid to 1000's of points for the FJ and knock out 100's of multiplies ! Not a good result.

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                      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                        Agree his price is mental but I don't think many on here would want him to lose!
                        That would put paid to 1000's of points for the FJ and knock out 100's of multiplies ! Not a good result.

                        ….let’s not forget FV was flagged up on here @ 66-1 to win CB/a/r around this time last year before he saw a racecourse but when rumours were circulating that he was a superstar. Firms have certainly moved the goalposts, but perhaps we all have to change our strategy slightly to counter.

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                        • LUCCIA
                          Declared in the MNH at Newbury on Saturday
                          "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                          • Originally posted by Eggs View Post


                            ….let’s not forget FV was flagged up on here @ 66-1 to win CB/a/r around this time last year before he saw a racecourse but when rumours were circulating that he was a superstar. Firms have certainly moved the goalposts, but perhaps we all have to change our strategy slightly to counter.
                            Are firms like Skybet refusing to put any request a bets or doubles relating to 2024 up this season so far?
                            There hasn’t been a single one that I’ve seen on there yet

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                            • Facile Vega not declared. We’ll still be left with these contracted prices though.

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                              • Originally posted by Exar Essay View Post
                                Facile Vega not declared. We’ll still be left with these contracted prices though.
                                Yep

                                Hilarious from the bookmakers!

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