2023 Gold Cup

[archie]

Maybe PFN will have another tantrum and withdraw Bravemansgame.

[Carnage at Taunton]

Maybe PFN will have another tantrum and withdraw Bravemansgame.

That won’t happen

[Carnage at Taunton]

With all this rain about, and the chances of soft or heavy ground if it really chucks it down, I’ve had an EW nibble at Royal Pagaille at 50/1. He’s a proper stayer and finished off ok in the KG, and that price is surely too big if it is properly soft ground.

Yep would have an e/w shout on soft, although it was soft at Kempton when BMG hammered him.

[Rooster Booster]

Maybe PFN will have another tantrum and withdraw Bravemansgame.

Maybe if he’d run him he wouldn’t have won the king George…maybe maybe not…fine margins. I certainly don’t think he would have beaten LP that day but he did when it mattered. Clearly if you owned him you would have run him. The trainer with a lifetime of success with staying chasers thought it wasn’t the right call and seeing whats happened since I don’t think it was a bad shout by him personally.

[archie]

Maybe if he’d run him he wouldn’t have won the king George…maybe maybe not…fine margins. I certainly don’t think he would have beaten LP that day but he did when it mattered. Clearly if you owned him you would have run him. The trainer with a lifetime of success with staying chasers thought it wasn’t the right call and seeing whats happened since I don’t think it was a bad shout by him personally.

Actually, I would have done what I always do and leave it to the trainer. It wasn't so much his action of the withdrawal that jarred, it was publicly having a go at the clerk of the course. Bitch all you want in private but he came over as a frustrated bully that day.

[Rooster Booster]

Actually, I would have done what I always do and leave it to the trainer. It wasn't so much his action of the withdrawal that jarred, it was publicly having a go at the clerk of the course. Bitch all you want in private but he came over as a frustrated bully that day.

Ok so it was his comments not his decision. Fair enough. Obviously the behind closed doors thing is a big deal to you and I understand that. Presumably you disagree with Willie calling out his jockey at the DRF on camera too? If so did you post your disapproval on here?

[archie]

Ok so it was his comments not his decision. Fair enough. Obviously the behind closed doors thing is a big deal to you and I understand that. Presumably you disagree with Willie calling out his jockey at the DRF on camera too? If so did you post your disapproval on here?

No. Paul is an employee who also gets plenty of plaudits so it's completely different. As an outsider, I didn't particularly approve but he who pays the piper....

As it happens, I didn't call out PFN at the time either because that too was said in the heat of the moment.

[EnvoiAlien]

Ahoy Senor (IRE)		8	11 10	Lucinda Russell	Wymer & Russell
	A Plus Tard (FR)		9	11 10	Henry de Bromhead Ireland	Cheveley Park Stud
	Bravemansgame (FR)		8	11 10	Paul Nicholls	John Dance and Bryan Drew	Harry Cobden
	Conflated (IRE)		9	11 10	Gordon Elliott Ireland	Gigginstown House Stud
	Eldorado Allen (FR)		9	11 10	Joe Tizzard	J P Romans & Terry Warner
	Galopin des Champs (FR)		7	11 10	W. P. Mullins Ireland	Mrs Audrey Turley
	Hewick (IRE)		8	11 10	John Joseph Hanlon Ireland	Mr T. J. Mcdonald
	Minella Indo (IRE)		10	11 10	Henry de Bromhead Ireland	Mr Barry Maloney
	Noble Yeats (IRE)		8	11 10	Emmet Mullins Ireland	Mr Robert Waley-Cohen
	Protektorat (FR)		8	11 10	Dan Skelton	Sir A Ferguson G Mason J Hales & L Hales	Harry Skelton
	Royale Pagaille (FR)		9	11 10	Venetia Williams	Mrs S. Ricci
	Sounds Russian (IRE)		8	11 10	Ruth Jefferson	Claxby & Co
	Stattler (IRE)		8	11 10	W. P. Mullins Ireland	Mr R. A. Bartlett
	The Real Whacker (IRE)		7	11 10	Patrick Neville	Neville, Mann, Duffus and Dennis

[Kevloaf]

No surprises there.... just Envoi Allen out?

[Irish Rugby]

No surprises there.... just Envoi Allen out?

And Shiskhin. Ho ho ho.

[Carnage at Taunton]

And Shiskhin. Ho ho ho.

Which imo is a big shame.
Hopefully next year

[Exar Essay]

Unsurprisingly, the Shark confirmed to Racing TV today that Hewick won’t run if the ground is soft.

[Eggs]

…APT 10-1 Hills.

[Kevloaf]

Ahoy Senor available at 20/1 with 365 as a boost

[Craigy14]

Not one mention for Conflated at the preview tonight!

Every horse ‘with a chance’ discussed with the exception of him. I know Davy doesn’t talk up his rides too often, but not one of the panel mentioned him. Agree with Ista from way back, think he has a massive chance.