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  • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

    I did this morning before I posted.... and came to the same conclusion, he's too short.
    Yes, any value has gone now but that's not to say he doesn't have a chance. Some on here have him at 150/1 .........now that is value !!!

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    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

      Yes, any value has gone now but that's not to say he doesn't have a chance. Some on here have him at 150/1 .........now that is value !!!
      I havne't said he hasn't got a chance have I?

      Yes very nice, I'd lay off the stake at the current 7/1 though, have that as a free bet. I didn't see the case made at 150/1 (guessing it was a special) but I wasn't on here much as I'm sure you noticed

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      • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

        I havne't said he hasn't got a chance have I?

        Yes very nice, I'd lay off the stake at the current 7/1 though, have that as a free bet. I didn't see the case made at 150/1 (guessing it was a special) but I wasn't on here much as I'm sure you noticed
        I'm on here a little bit but didn't take that special.......some after timer called Quevega I think may have done it and got it doubled up with Hills ??

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        • Originally posted by Madmoose View Post
          Sickener that Presse news, been so many high profile injuries and we aren’t even within the last few weeks when work and more injuries crank up.
          Would have to disagree with you personally as regards ‘high profile’ injuries.

          The bookmakers are praying for news of Constitution Hill, Facile Vega, Allaho, Energumene,Galopin, Delta Work, Jonbon being registered as ‘out of the festival’.

          As of yet, their liabilities ante post are very high.

          The bookmakers won’t be losing too much sleep over ‘high profile’ absentees as you’ve mentioned because in truth, in my view, we’ve hardly ‘lost anyone’ bar L’homme and Ferny Hollow, but it’s those 6 horses that the bookmakers are praying for the dreaded ‘WhatsApp ping’ from now until the festival’

          GDP’s 5/4 price is indicative of his liability thus far - L’homme Presse’s ‘removal’ from the market I sincerely wouldn’t believe is ‘high profile’ for any bookmaker pre festival.

          They need the ‘Big Guns’ out.

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          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

            I'm on here a little bit but didn't take that special.......some after timer called Quevega I think may have done it and got it doubled up with Hills ??

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            • Originally posted by Bollinger View Post

              Would have to disagree with you personally as regards ‘high profile’ injuries.

              The bookmakers are praying for news of Constitution Hill, Facile Vega, Allaho, Energumene,Galopin, Delta Work, Jonbon being registered as ‘out of the festival’.

              As of yet, their liabilities ante post are very high.

              The bookmakers won’t be losing too much sleep over ‘high profile’ absentees as you’ve mentioned because in truth, in my view, we’ve hardly ‘lost anyone’ bar L’homme and Ferny Hollow, but it’s those 6 horses that the bookmakers are praying for the dreaded ‘WhatsApp ping’ from now until the festival’

              GDP’s 5/4 price is indicative of his liability thus far - L’homme Presse’s ‘removal’ from the market I sincerely wouldn’t believe is ‘high profile’ for any bookmaker pre festival.

              They need the ‘Big Guns’ out.
              Just when I think you can't surpass what's gone before, you come up with this pearler.
              Admiration has increased once again.

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              • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

                Just when I think you can't surpass what's gone before, you come up with this pearler.
                Admiration has increased once again.
                Thankyou Mr Q.

                if I could have 1/5 on you commenting on one of my observations/ being notified on anything I write on here, I’d have to have a mild consideration on placing at least part of my mortgage on here.

                You are ‘all reaction’ when the truth remains clear out with the bookmakers - no horse yet named as being ‘out of the festival’ is worrying them as a liability.

                I only write my opinion with a markets truth of what horses are seriously concerning each bookmaker, should they prevail at the festival, at an ante post price.

                Bookmakers want ‘high profile’ odds on favourites beaten.

                Every.
                Single.
                Race.

                I’m sorry to ‘surpass myself’ Mr Q, and I hold you on high regard as a member here.

                But money talks more than anything else with each & every bookmake. As of yet, every horses ‘market omission’ we know of pre festival isn’t doing them any harm whatsoever.



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                • As of yet, every horses ‘market omission’ we know of pre festival isn’t doing them any harm whatsoever.
                  There you go again, up another notch.

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                  • I would agree, that, as individual market’ ‘L’homme Presse’ being omitted is of a ‘relative’ consequence to this market, but at 8/1, a bookmaker wouldn’t be concerned any day of the week by it’s omission as ala a liability, whether it’s the blue riband event at Cheltenham or a maiden hurdle at Clonmel.

                    They need those big guns I’ve mentioned out and not running.

                    When the bookies heard of L’homme Presse being out last night, they’d be raising a gentle smirk, at best.

                    If news arrives before 3.30pm on the 17th March that GDC isn’t running, freebie Christmas hols to Barbados & beyond will be the order of the day before the Foxhunter’s horses half an hour later have even gone to post.





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                    • Full of revaltions arnt you Bollinger, first NRNB equals shorter prices now your saying bookies are wanting short priced favourites to lose or not make it.

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                      • Originally posted by Many Clouds View Post
                        Full of revaltions arnt you Bollinger, first NRNB equals shorter prices now your saying bookies are wanting short priced favourites to lose or not make it.
                        Very valuable insight, I'm looking forward to his next long-winded discourse on how horses are the ones on four legs.

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                        • Originally posted by That Horse View Post

                          Very valuable insight, I'm looking forward to his next long-winded discourse on how horses are the ones on four legs.
                          Did you know that horses with less than 4 legs statistically win less races than those with 4 legs?

                          This sort of insight should really be behind a paywall. Might be one for the members section?

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                          • FJs this is tiresome.

                            Surely everyone is entitled to their say provided they’re not causing offence.

                            If you don’t like something maybe it’s better to just ignore it.

                            I promise you I’m not a delicate flower but the sarcasm is not very pleasant to read and totally unnecessary.

                            It smacks of bullying/ trying to hound someone out to my mind.

                            How about we try to cut it out and concentrate on what we’re all here for - picking some good priced winners to bash the bookies rather than picking on each other.

                            If you don’t like this post I’m sorry but someone has to call it out in my book.

                            This is a cracking forum, the bar is set high. Let’s keep it that way and extend a bit of tolerance to each other.

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                            • The way to deal with trolls is to ignore them

                              They want to get a reaction out of people they feed on it

                              Don't take the bait enough times and the fisherman will go home hungry

                              And likely try a different fishing hole in the future


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                              • Originally posted by nortonscoin200 View Post
                                FJs this is tiresome.

                                Surely everyone is entitled to their say provided they’re not causing offence.

                                If you don’t like something maybe it’s better to just ignore it.

                                I promise you I’m not a delicate flower but the sarcasm is not very pleasant to read and totally unnecessary.

                                It smacks of bullying/ trying to hound someone out to my mind.

                                How about we try to cut it out and concentrate on what we’re all here for - picking some good priced winners to bash the bookies rather than picking on each other.

                                If you don’t like this post I’m sorry but someone has to call it out in my book.

                                This is a cracking forum, the bar is set high. Let’s keep it that way and extend a bit of tolerance to each other.
                                Couldn’t agree more. The last month or two this forum has started to take quite a nasty tone back and forth between some FJs which isn’t great for reading.

                                If you don’t agree with a post then simply leave it alone or reply as you would expect your post to be replied to.

                                To many people on here believing they are better than certain people, when at the end of the day apart from Kev, Spectre and Jonno who put their faces out there, we are all Keyboard warriors with different opinions and strategies regarding antepost betting.

                                Just take a minute before replying and think would you like to be on the end of certain comments......

                                This is the best forum by a country mile for horse racing so let’s keep it that way

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